Just the $0.02 that I always seem to contribute in these types of discussions - the topology you have shown below contains some likely problems. The charges (and massive charge group size) can lead to artifacts. We've got a paper due out soon about the implications of incorrect charges, but I would advise you that this topology should *not* be used for production simulation. You'd be better off spending the time to properly parameterize the molecule rather than run a bunch of simulations and get questionable (at best) or wrong (at worst) results.

http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/How-tos/Parameterization

-Justin

Olga Ivchenko wrote:

Hey Vitaly,

Thank you for your reply. Here is the files:

*itp:*
; ; ; This file was generated by PRODRG version AA081006.0504
;       PRODRG written/copyrighted by Daan van Aalten
;       and Alexander Schuettelkopf
; ; Questions/comments to d...@davapc1.bioch.dundee.ac.uk <mailto:d...@davapc1.bioch.dundee.ac.uk> ; ; When using this software in a publication, cite:
;       A. W. Schuettelkopf and D. M. F. van Aalten (2004).
;       PRODRG - a tool for high-throughput crystallography
;       of protein-ligand complexes.
;       Acta Crystallogr. D60, 1355--1363.
; ;
[ moleculetype ]
 Name nrexcl
DRG      3

[ atoms ]
;   nr      type  resnr resid  atom  cgnr   charge     mass
1 OM 1 DRG OXT 1 -0.701 15.9994 2 C 1 DRG C 1 0.402 12.0110 3 OM 1 DRG O 1 -0.701 15.9994 4 CH2 1 DRG CA 2 0.185 14.0270 5 N 1 DRG N 2 0.468 14.0067 6 CH3 1 DRG CAG 2 0.201 15.0350 7 C 1 DRG CAH 2 0.377 12.0110 8 NZ 1 DRG NAE 2 -0.163 14.0067 9 H 1 DRG HA6 2 0.023 1.0080 10 H 1 DRG HAE 2 0.024 1.0080 11 NZ 1 DRG NAD 2 -0.163 14.0067 12 H 1 DRG HA5 2 0.024 1.0080 13 H 1 DRG HAD 2 0.024 1.0080
[ bonds ]
; ai  aj  fu    c0, c1, ...
2 1 2 0.125 13400000.0 0.125 13400000.0 ; C OXT 2 3 2 0.125 13400000.0 0.125 13400000.0 ; C O 2 4 2 0.153 7150000.0 0.153 7150000.0 ; C CA 5 4 2 0.147 8710000.0 0.147 8710000.0 ; N CA 5 6 2 0.147 8710000.0 0.147 8710000.0 ; N CAG 5 7 2 0.134 10500000.0 0.134 10500000.0 ; N CAH 7 8 2 0.134 10500000.0 0.134 10500000.0 ; CAH NAE 7 11 2 0.134 10500000.0 0.134 10500000.0 ; CAH NAD 8 9 2 0.100 18700000.0 0.100 18700000.0 ; NAE HA6 8 10 2 0.100 18700000.0 0.100 18700000.0 ; NAE HAE 11 12 2 0.100 18700000.0 0.100 18700000.0 ; NAD HA5 11 13 2 0.100 18700000.0 0.100 18700000.0 ; NAD HAD
[ pairs ]
; ai  aj  fu    c0, c1, ...
1 5 1 ; OXT N 2 6 1 ; C CAG 2 7 1 ; C CAH 3 5 1 ; O N 4 8 1 ; CA NAE 4 11 1 ; CA NAD 5 9 1 ; N HA6 5 10 1 ; N HAE 5 12 1 ; N HA5 5 13 1 ; N HAD 6 8 1 ; CAG NAE 6 11 1 ; CAG NAD 8 12 1 ; NAE HA5 8 13 1 ; NAE HAD 9 11 1 ; HA6 NAD 10 11 1 ; HAE NAD
[ angles ]
; ai  aj  ak  fu    c0, c1, ...
1 2 3 2 126.0 770.0 126.0 770.0 ; OXT C O 1 2 4 2 117.0 635.0 117.0 635.0 ; OXT C CA 3 2 4 2 117.0 635.0 117.0 635.0 ; O C CA 2 4 5 2 109.5 520.0 109.5 520.0 ; C CA N 4 5 6 2 121.0 685.0 121.0 685.0 ; CA N CAG 4 5 7 2 122.0 700.0 122.0 700.0 ; CA N CAH 6 5 7 2 117.0 635.0 117.0 635.0 ; CAG N CAH 5 7 8 2 120.0 670.0 120.0 670.0 ; N CAH NAE 5 7 11 2 120.0 670.0 120.0 670.0 ; N CAH NAD 8 7 11 2 120.0 670.0 120.0 670.0 ; NAE CAH NAD 7 8 9 2 120.0 390.0 120.0 390.0 ; CAH NAE HA6 7 8 10 2 120.0 390.0 120.0 390.0 ; CAH NAE HAE 9 8 10 2 120.0 445.0 120.0 445.0 ; HA6 NAE HAE 7 11 12 2 120.0 390.0 120.0 390.0 ; CAH NAD HA5 7 11 13 2 120.0 390.0 120.0 390.0 ; CAH NAD HAD 12 11 13 2 120.0 445.0 120.0 445.0 ; HA5 NAD HAD
[ dihedrals ]
; ai  aj  ak  al  fu    c0, c1, m, ...
2 1 3 4 2 0.0 167.4 0.0 167.4 ; imp C OXT O CA 5 4 6 7 2 0.0 167.4 0.0 167.4 ; imp N CA CAG CAH 7 5 8 11 2 0.0 167.4 0.0 167.4 ; imp CAH N NAE NAD 8 7 10 9 2 0.0 167.4 0.0 167.4 ; imp NAE CAH HAE HA6 11 7 13 12 2 0.0 167.4 0.0 167.4 ; imp NAD CAH HAD HA5 5 4 2 1 1 0.0 1.0 6 0.0 1.0 6 ; dih N CA C OXT 2 4 5 7 1 180.0 1.0 6 180.0 1.0 6 ; dih C CA N CAH 11 7 5 4 1 180.0 33.5 2 180.0 33.5 2 ; dih NAD CAH N CA 5 7 8 10 1 180.0 33.5 2 180.0 33.5 2 ; dih N CAH NAE HAE 5 7 11 13 1 180.0 33.5 2 180.0 33.5 2 ; dih N CAH NAD HAD







*And top. I am prettu sure this file is wrong. And I do not know yet how to modify it correctly:

*

;
;    File 'creatine.top' was generated
;    By user: onbekend (0)
;    On host: onbekend
;    At date: Mon Nov 15 13:24:44 2010
;
;    This is your topology file
;    it was generated using program:
;    pdb2gmx - version 4.5-beta2
;    with command line:
; pdb2gmx -f creatine_all_hyd_PRODRGBeta.pdb -o creatine.gro -p creatine.top
;

#include "creatine.itp"
#include "gromos43a1.ff"


; Include forcefield parameters
;#include "gromos43a1.ff/forcefield.itp"

;"gromos43a1.ff/creatine.itp"


;[ system ]

;[ molecules ]
;DRG      3




2010/11/15 Vitaly Chaban <vvcha...@gmail.com <mailto:vvcha...@gmail.com>>

    Hey, Olga -

     > Also please can you tell me where can I get "ffgmx.itp" file?

    /$gromacs_folder/share/gromacs/top/ffgmx.itp as well as all other
    standard topology files are there.

    By trying to run md I am getting an error: Fatal error:
     > moleculetype UNK is redefined

    Please post you top and itp files here. Looks like you have 2 creatine
    molecules in your topology right now.

    Good luck!

    Vitaly




     > I still have troubles of starting running md for creatine. For
    which I
     > created topology using PRODRG programm.
     > The only difference between creatine.top and creating.itp is that
    creatine
     > top has additional lines:
     >  #include "ffgmx.itp"
     > #include "creatine.itp"
     >
     > Also please can you tell me where can I get "ffgmx.itp" file?
     >
     > By trying to run md I am getting an error: Fatal error:
     > moleculetype UNK is redefined



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