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From: Sai Pooja <saipo...@gmail.com>
Date: Monday, November 1, 2010 8:12
Subject: Re: [gmx-users] LINCS vs SHAKE
To: Discussion list for GROMACS users <gmx-users@gromacs.org>

> Yes, I understand that. But then this is a protein in water simulation with 
> CHarmm forcefield and I cannot find a reason as to why does this happen(esp 
> after variable number of steps)?

MD integrates equations of motion. If the starting configuration, or 
integration procedure is not well-formed, then atoms will experience large 
forces and motions, which lead to more, which eventually lead to a smoking pile 
of debris. See http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Terminology/Blowing_Up for 
discussion and suggestions

Mark

> I have checked the .pdb files generated for the steps where Lincs fails and 
> it seems that H atoms for atleast 1 sidechain are in incorrect 
> positions(usually clashing). There doesn't seem to be a good way of analyzing 
> this error. If you have any suggestions I would be eager to try them.
  > 
> Pooja
> 
> On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 3:40 PM, Justin A. Lemkul <jalem...@vt.edu> wrote:
  > 
 > 
>  Sai Pooja wrote:
  > 
>  For Replica exchange, is there any advantage of in using SHAKE over 
> LINCS(other than the stepsize)?
>   I am running an REM simulation and the simulation stops after running for 
> variable number of steps (100000, 10000000 etc.) because some bond moves more 
> than 30 degrees and LINCS gives a warning.
 > 
  > 
>  It has been said (check the archive) that LINCS is more stable.  Just 
> because you're getting LINCS warnings does not mean the constraint algorithm 
> is to blame, it's just the first algorithm that fails when your model physics 
> implodes.
   > 
>  -Justin
 > 
  > 
>  Pooja
 > 
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