Aswathy wrote:
Let me explain.

Consider the channel of a membrane protein, r57 is a residue at the extracellular loop in this channel. I docked my ligand to the start of the channel. ie; just below the r57. (Here the I have not started from the solvent, but at the mouth of the channel , just below r 57..) Then I pulled the ligand through the channel(parameters as in the first mail). ie; pulled in such a way that, initially ligand was just below r57, then moved away from r57.

Plz check some data from the pullx file.

0.0000    7.74891    -0.754818
0.0200    7.74388    -0.754379
0.0400    7.73726    -0.752573
0.0600    7.73032    -0.756692
0.0800    7.72422    -0.747781
0.1000    7.72041    -0.754858
0.1200    7.71691    -0.744501
..............................................
..............................................
..............................................
1099.8601    8.45571    5.46432
1099.8800    8.45551    -5.46076
1099.9000    8.45817    -5.46827
1099.9200    8.46075    5.46829
1099.9401    8.46317    -5.46782
1099.9601    8.46545    5.46577
1099.9801    8.46565    -5.47014
1100.0000    8.46651    5.46001


This looks exactly correct, although it appears you're dealing with some periodic jumps across the box (hence +/- 5.4 nm). If the initial displacement is roughly -0.7 nm and the final distance is -5.4 nm, then you've pulled 4.7 nm, and if you subtract the fact that the reference group moved 0.7 nm (from 7.7 nm to 8.4 nm), you pulled exactly 4.0 nm. I don't know how you came up with 1.9 nm earlier.

-Justin

Thanks,
Aswathy

On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 4:28 PM, Justin A. Lemkul <jalem...@vt.edu <mailto:jalem...@vt.edu>> wrote:



    Aswathy wrote:



        On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 4:31 PM, Justin A. Lemkul
        <jalem...@vt.edu <mailto:jalem...@vt.edu>
        <mailto:jalem...@vt.edu <mailto:jalem...@vt.edu>>> wrote:



           Aswathy wrote:

               Dear Gromacs users,

               I am doing SMD of a ligand pathway, and then want ot do
        the PMF
               analysis. Initially I pulled the ligand from extra to
               intracellular side of the protein. The pull code used are
        given
               below.

               pull                     = umbrella
               pull_geometry            = distance
               pull_dim                 =  N N Y
               pull_start               = yes
               pull_nstxout             =  10
               pull_nstfout             =  10
               pull_ngroups             =  1
               pull_group0              =  r_57
               pull_group1              =  r_C1
               pull_rate1               =  0.005
               pull_k1                  =  1000

               here group0 is one residue at the extracellular region
        and r_C1
               is the side chain Carbon atom of the ligand.

               My question is , the total length of the channel is almost 40
               Angstrom and as per my knowledge, when we did the pulling the
               pullx file will give the coordinate of the ligand through the
               channel.


           Not quite.  Look at the data labels in the .xvg file.  The pullx
           file contains the coordinates (in all of the pull directions) for
           the reference group, and then the distance between the
        reference and
           the pull group along all pull axes.

        I am still confused.   I have measured the distance between the
        reference group(residue outside) to the other end of the
        channel. that is around 40Angstrom. if so, 1dz should give
        around 40 Angstrom? Because  once the pulling completed,  the
        distance between group0 and group1 , should be equal to the
        length of the channel.


    I guess I still don't understand your setup.  Are you pulling a
    ligand through a a channel and then beyond the reference group, out
    into some solvent?  Or are you just pulling the length of the
    channel, such that the ligand never exits the channel.

    If you're pulling through the entire channel and then out into the
    solvent, the sign of dZ is going to change.  It might help if you
    post the first few output lines of pullx.xvg (not the headers and
    stuff, the actual data), as well as the last few.  That way I can
    understand exactly what you're dealing with.


        Sorry that i am repeating the same query, i think I am still
        preconceived about this. Otherwise could you please suggest some
        good tutorial for the same . I will read that.


    There is a pulling tutorial on the Gromacs website, but nothing that
    deals with what you're doing.  Tutorials are designed to generally
    guide the user through a larger procedure, not explain every small
    piece of analysis.

    -Justin




               Even though ligand reaches the opposite end of the
        channel, in
               pullx file I am getting around 19 Angstrom in total.

               Again I calculate the g_dist of the ligand and the center
        of the
               channel, it shows around 40 Ang in total . Please find
        the links
               provided


           You're measuring two different things.  The pullx distance is
        given
           relative to your pull_group0, which you said is a residue on one
           side of the channel.  Then you're using g_dist to measure to the
           center of the channel.

               Am I misunderstanding anything about the pullx file.

               Could you please suggest me where thing get wrong?

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           For some reason these documents are inaccessible.  It is probably
           better to use a site like photobucket and post actual images.
            Google is great, but not everyone has an account and I've
        also been
           told that their usage agreement is troubling, in that
        anything you
           upload to Google Docs becomes property of Google.  Not something
           I've looked into, but I don't ever post my research data there.

-Justin


               Thank you,
               --         -Aswathy


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