Amit Choubey wrote:


On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 5:15 PM, Justin A. Lemkul <jalem...@vt.edu <mailto:jalem...@vt.edu>> wrote:



    Amit Choubey wrote:

        Hi Justin,

        Since the density (1 gm/cc) and T (300 K) correspond to ambient
        condition, should not the equation of state dictate a pressure
        around 1 atm?


If the equation of state involves temperature and pressure, yes.

So if you fix the density and temperature shouldnt you land up with right pressure which we know should be 1 atm.

You are not fixing (or conserving) the temperature in an NVE ensemble. That would be an NVT ensemble, employing a thermostat. Since instantaneous pressure is calculated (in part) from the kinetic energy, and since the kinetic energy is not guaranteed to be conserved, the pressure term will also fluctuate accordingly.

http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Terminology/Pressure

The internal energy of the system is constant in an NVE ensemble, the other terms may fluctuate as necessary such that all microstates occur with the same probability and the energy surface remains flat. Also recall that an NVE ensemble represents a thermodynamically isolated system, not conducting heat or engaging in work with the surrounding system. So any concept of external pressure and equilibrating the pressure is irrelevant.

-Justin

amit



        thank you
        amit


        On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 2:07 PM, Justin A. Lemkul
        <jalem...@vt.edu <mailto:jalem...@vt.edu>
        <mailto:jalem...@vt.edu <mailto:jalem...@vt.edu>>> wrote:



           Amit Choubey wrote:

               Hi Everyone,

               I was doing MD with SPC waters and found something which i am
               not sure how to explain.

               I made a box of SPC water of dimension 4x4x4 nm^3 and filled
               with water using grenbox .

               I then did a nvt simulation at 300 K for 1 ns . I used
        berendsen
               coupling and Reaction - Field for coulomb interaction.
        Cut off
               were all set to 1 nm. Temperature did converge to 300 K.
        After
               this i turned of nvt and did nve with RF-zero for another ns.
               Energy was well converged during this (RMSD < 0.1 %).
               Temperature was also around 304 K (RMSD < 1%). But the
        pressure
               was 1.1 Kilobar with a fluctuation of 20 % . I don understand
               this, shouldnt this be around 1 bar ? Could some one suggest
               whats on ?


           Since an NVE ensemble employs neither a thermostat nor a
        barostat, I
           don't know why you'd expect that.

           -Justin

               Thank you,
               amit


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