Am 07.05.2010 16:03, schrieb David van der Spoel:
On 5/7/10 8:45 AM, Markus Tusch wrote:
Hi everybody,

I've just compared the following opls-aa torsional parameters for
hydrocarbons given in J. Comp. Chem., Vol. 18, No. 16, 1955 - 1970 (1997)
as well as in J. Comp. Chem., Vol. 23, No. 15, 1416 - 1429 (2002)
with those in ffoplsaabon.itp (Gromacs 4.0.7):

##literature (these are also the original values for alkanes published
by Jorgensen in 1996 I believe):
V1 V2 V3
H-C-C-H 0.0 0.0 0.318
H-C-C-C 0.0 0.0 0.366
C-C-C-C 1.74 -0.157 0.279

##ffoplsaabon.itp, keyword "hydrocarbon", (translated according to eq.
4.64 of the manual):

V1 V2 V3
H-C-C-H 0.0 0.0 0.300
H-C-C-C 0.0 0.0 0.300
C-C-C-C 1.299 -0.05 0.200

There's obviously a difference.
Is there another source for the latter parameters which I just wasn't
able to find? I know that the numbers in Gromacs were updated in 1999.

Cheers,
Markus

Hi Markus,

Erik Lindahl made those conversions based on a file provided by Jorgensen. This did not make it into gromacs before 3.1 which was well after 1999, but there was a downloadable force field earlier.

Now the question is whether
- the OPLS force field changed after 1996 when this was published
- Erik made an error when converting to Ryckaert Bellemans
- You made an error when converting back :).
Hi David,
thanks for your reply.

Well, for all the other 10 dihedrals (alcohols, ethers, acetals, carbohydrates) in the reference from 1997 (see above) my results match :). It's just the three hydrocarbon related ones that were significantly off. So I guess it's likely that exactly these parameters were changed at some point in between, although van Gunsteren still used them in 2002 (see above).


Looking at the ffoplsaabon.itp file I can not but notice that there are more than 1 H C C C dihedrals which are all different:
C   CT CT   HC 3 -0.20934 -0.62802 0.0 0.83736 0.0 0.0 ;
C   CT CT_2 HC 3 -0.15910 -0.47730 0.0 0.63639 0.0 0.0
C_3 CT CT_2 HC 3 -0.15910 -0.47730 0.0 0.63639 0.0 0.0

Neither of which seems to be consistent with the Eqn 4.64
Based on H-C-C-C 0.0 0.0 0.300 I would expect
H C C C 3 0.6276 1.8828 0 -1.2552 0

The one I am talking about is
CT CT CT HC 3 0.62760 1.88280 0.00000 -2.51040 0.00000 0.00000 ; hydrocarbon all-atom
which was also used for
CO CT CT HC 3 0.62760 1.88280 0.00000 -2.51040 0.00000 0.00000 ; acetal
and
CT CT CO HC 3 0.62760 1.88280 0.00000 -2.51040 0.00000 0.00000 ; acetal
amongst others ...

Except for the factor 2 in C3 these are very much consistent with your result, so maybe you just missed the 2 in C3 = -2 F3 in Eqn 4.64?

So I am lost here...



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