xi zhao wrote:
Dear Mr  Justin A. Lemkul :
   Thank you for your advice, can you give more suggetions?
Thank you very much!

Not really. If you search "Jarzynski" in the mailing list archives, you get 8 results, indicating to me that this is not a particularly popular way to calculate free energy changes with Gromacs.

There are inherent limitations to the technique, in that you are trying to derive equilibrium data from non-equilibrium trajectories (hence why umbrella sampling is preferred). Jarzynski's method is sensitive to the pull rate and number of pulls conducted. To be very accurate, you have to pull infinitely slowly an infinite number of times (not possible, clearly), but you may be able to converge the results within a reasonable error estimate if you repeat the pulling many, many times (this could mean 10, 50, or 1000 times, depending on what it is that you're doing). There are several papers out there that have analyzed this phenomenon in the context of both of these variables.

-Justin


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    主题: Re: [gmx-users] how to reconstruct potentials of mean force
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    xi zhao wrote:
     > dear Mr Justin A. Lemkul :
     > I have read your _tutorial ,it is suitable for umbrella sampling
    method, it is not for SMD, wham or g_wham can not be used!_
     > _Thnak you!_
     >

    If you want to use SMD trajectories to calculate free energy
    changes, you will need Jarzynski's inequality and a large amount of
    sampling.  I do not think such a method is implemented in Gromacs;
    you may have to write your own scripts to do this.

    -Justin

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     >     xi zhao wrote:
     >      > Dear gromacs users:
     >      >
     >      > How to reconstruct potentials of mean force through time
    series
     >     analysis of SMD or pulling simulations; for example, software or
     >     script using, how to reconstruct PMF in detail?
     >      > thank you very much!
     >      >
     >
     >     http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Tutorials#Umbrella_Sampling
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     >     -Justin
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