On 3/1/10 5:13 PM, Justin A. Lemkul wrote:


shaya...@post.tau.ac.il wrote:
Greetings dear Gromacs users,

I would like to create a membrane-protein simulations (popc + protein,
water, Na Cl ions, using Berendsen thermostat) and I am not sure which
coupling-groups I should use.
For example, why not couple the whole system together?

I do realize that this is a large request on this type of mailing
list. I will also be happy to receive references to relevant literature.

Most reports in the literature describe protein, lipids, and
solvent+ions in separate groups. The reasons for not coupling the whole
system together are well-documented, and as a matter of fact, I just
updated the Gromacs wiki this weekend to point to several papers
describing this phenomenon:

http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Terminology/Thermostats

That's interesting, thanks for putting this together Justin.
I haven't read the paper from the Tavan group completely, but I don't think they truly solve the problem, do they? It reads more like some workaround.

The origin of the problem is the lack of coupling between the different degrees of freedom, and as such one would expect united atom force fields to show this effect to a larger degree than all-atom force fields. It could also be that the use of constraints makes that the effective number of degrees of freedom per atom is different for proteins and water. It seems that this still hasn't been investigated properly...


There are also numerous threads in the list archive on this topic,
likely with other references that I did not link.



-Justin


Thanks in advance,
-Shay




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