Hi Chris, > 1. Is your system is properly minimized
Of course, it is, based on the energy values. > 2. If you take the output from a 500 ps run with 0.25 fs timestep and > start a 1 fs timestep run, is that new run stable? Unfortunately the new run also crashes. The crash may be at the very end while all the run goes well. > 3. What are atoms 62 and 80? These are non-bonded carbon and hydrogen of the same molecule. > **4. Why is there a 1-4 between atoms 62 and 80 if you have only water > and a 42 atom solute? Because I have a number of solute molecules. > 5. What does your .top look like? (does it list the organic molecule > only once in the [ molecules ] section?) Only once. > 6. Do you have a bond or angle with a massive force constant that > should indeed necessitate the small timestep for stability? I think no... It look very strange for me that the run can be OK during 500 ps but then unexpectedly crashes with producing PDB files and similar messages about 1-4 interactions. Visualizing the dynamics I do not notice anything strange - the molecule bends and oscillates like any other does. Thanks, Vitaly P.S. I list the topology generated by X2TOP below. [ moleculetype ] CIP 3 [ atoms ] ; nr type resnr residue atom cgnr charge mass 1 C 1 CIP C 9 0.221961 12.01115 2 C 1 CIP C 11 0.055382 12.01115 3 C 1 CIP C 10 -0.089181 12.01115 4 C 1 CIP C 8 -0.194750 12.01115 5 C 1 CIP C 7 -0.130399 12.01115 6 C 1 CIP C 7 -0.041791 12.01115 7 N 1 CIP N 6 0.063498 14.0067 8 C 1 CIP C 3 -0.117160 12.01115 9 C 1 CIP C 3 -0.177274 12.01115 10 C 1 CIP C 2 0.545958 12.01115 11 O 1 CIP O 2 -0.663625 15.9994 12 C 1 CIP C 1 0.656204 12.01115 13 O 1 CIP O 1 -0.574855 15.9994 14 O 1 CIP O 1 -0.631961 15.9994 15 F 1 CIP F 9 -0.243679 12.01115 16 N 1 CIP N 11 -0.111246 14.0067 17 C 1 CIP C 6 0.306136 12.01115 18 C 1 CIP C 4 0.043211 12.01115 19 C 1 CIP C 5 -0.718730 12.01115 20 C 1 CIP C 12 0.055448 12.01115 21 C 1 CIP C 14 0.145614 12.01115 22 N 1 CIP N 15 -0.832260 14.0067 23 C 1 CIP C 16 0.169804 12.01115 24 C 1 CIP C 13 -0.169448 12.01115 25 H 1 CIP H 10 0.034855 1.00797 26 H 1 CIP H 8 0.182392 1.00797 27 H 1 CIP H 3 0.180033 1.00797 28 H 1 CIP H 1 0.434432 1.00797 29 H 1 CIP H 6 0.039190 1.00797 30 H 1 CIP H 4 0.069751 1.00797 31 H 1 CIP H 4 0.065460 1.00797 32 H 1 CIP H 5 0.261152 1.00797 33 H 1 CIP H 5 0.244063 1.00797 34 H 1 CIP H 12 0.065977 1.00797 35 H 1 CIP H 12 0.013564 1.00797 36 H 1 CIP H 14 0.056687 1.00797 37 H 1 CIP H 14 0.054216 1.00797 38 H 1 CIP H 15 0.394600 1.00797 39 H 1 CIP H 16 0.059893 1.00797 40 H 1 CIP H 16 0.036976 1.00797 41 H 1 CIP H 13 0.109269 1.00797 42 H 1 CIP H 13 0.130633 1.00797 [ bonds ] ; ai aj funct c0 c1 c2 c3 1 2 1 1.400000e-01 4.000000e+05 1.400000e-01 4.000000e+05 1 4 1 1.360000e-01 4.000000e+05 1.360000e-01 4.000000e+05 1 15 1 1.330000e-01 4.000000e+05 1.330000e-01 4.000000e+05 2 3 1 1.390000e-01 4.000000e+05 1.390000e-01 4.000000e+05 2 16 1 1.400000e-01 4.000000e+05 1.400000e-01 4.000000e+05 3 6 1 1.390000e-01 4.000000e+05 1.390000e-01 4.000000e+05 3 25 1 1.070000e-01 4.000000e+05 1.070000e-01 4.000000e+05 4 5 1 1.390000e-01 4.000000e+05 1.390000e-01 4.000000e+05 4 26 1 1.070000e-01 4.000000e+05 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4.000000e+05 1.500000e-01 4.000000e+05 17 29 1 1.080000e-01 4.000000e+05 1.080000e-01 4.000000e+05 18 19 1 1.490000e-01 4.000000e+05 1.490000e-01 4.000000e+05 18 30 1 1.080000e-01 4.000000e+05 1.080000e-01 4.000000e+05 18 31 1 1.070000e-01 4.000000e+05 1.070000e-01 4.000000e+05 19 32 1 1.070000e-01 4.000000e+05 1.070000e-01 4.000000e+05 19 33 1 1.080000e-01 4.000000e+05 1.080000e-01 4.000000e+05 20 21 1 1.530000e-01 4.000000e+05 1.530000e-01 4.000000e+05 20 34 1 1.090000e-01 4.000000e+05 1.090000e-01 4.000000e+05 20 35 1 1.080000e-01 4.000000e+05 1.080000e-01 4.000000e+05 21 22 1 1.450000e-01 4.000000e+05 1.450000e-01 4.000000e+05 21 36 1 1.080000e-01 4.000000e+05 1.080000e-01 4.000000e+05 21 37 1 1.090000e-01 4.000000e+05 1.090000e-01 4.000000e+05 22 23 1 1.450000e-01 4.000000e+05 1.450000e-01 4.000000e+05 22 38 1 1.000000e-01 4.000000e+05 1.000000e-01 4.000000e+05 23 24 1 1.530000e-01 4.000000e+05 1.530000e-01 4.000000e+05 23 39 1 1.080000e-01 4.000000e+05 1.080000e-01 4.000000e+05 23 40 1 1.080000e-01 4.000000e+05 1.080000e-01 4.000000e+05 24 41 1 1.080000e-01 4.000000e+05 1.080000e-01 4.000000e+05 24 42 1 1.090000e-01 4.000000e+05 1.090000e-01 4.000000e+05 [ pairs ] ; ai aj funct c0 c1 c2 c3 1 6 1 1 10 1 1 20 1 1 24 1 1 25 1 2 5 1 2 7 1 2 21 1 2 23 1 2 26 1 2 34 1 2 35 1 2 41 1 2 42 1 3 4 1 3 8 1 3 10 1 3 15 1 3 17 1 3 20 1 3 24 1 4 7 1 4 9 1 4 11 1 4 16 1 5 8 1 5 12 1 5 15 1 5 17 1 5 25 1 6 9 1 6 11 1 6 16 1 6 18 1 6 19 1 6 26 1 6 27 1 6 29 1 7 10 1 7 12 1 7 25 1 7 30 1 7 31 1 7 32 1 7 33 1 8 11 1 8 13 1 8 14 1 8 18 1 8 19 1 8 29 1 9 17 1 9 28 1 10 13 1 10 14 1 10 26 1 10 27 1 11 12 1 12 27 1 14 28 1 15 16 1 15 26 1 16 22 1 16 25 1 16 36 1 16 37 1 16 39 1 16 40 1 17 27 1 20 23 1 20 38 1 20 41 1 20 42 1 21 24 1 21 39 1 21 40 1 22 34 1 22 35 1 22 41 1 22 42 1 23 36 1 23 37 1 24 34 1 24 35 1 24 38 1 29 30 1 29 31 1 29 32 1 29 33 1 30 32 1 30 33 1 31 32 1 31 33 1 34 36 1 34 37 1 35 36 1 35 37 1 36 38 1 37 38 1 38 39 1 38 40 1 39 41 1 39 42 1 40 41 1 40 42 1 [ 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4.000000e+02 3 6 7 1 1.210000e+02 4.000000e+02 1.210000e+02 4.000000e+02 5 6 7 1 1.190000e+02 4.000000e+02 1.190000e+02 4.000000e+02 6 7 8 1 1.190000e+02 4.000000e+02 1.190000e+02 4.000000e+02 6 7 17 1 1.210000e+02 4.000000e+02 1.210000e+02 4.000000e+02 8 7 17 1 1.190000e+02 4.000000e+02 1.190000e+02 4.000000e+02 7 8 9 1 1.250000e+02 4.000000e+02 1.250000e+02 4.000000e+02 7 8 27 1 1.160000e+02 4.000000e+02 1.160000e+02 4.000000e+02 9 8 27 1 1.180000e+02 4.000000e+02 1.180000e+02 4.000000e+02 8 9 10 1 1.200000e+02 4.000000e+02 1.200000e+02 4.000000e+02 8 9 12 1 1.170000e+02 4.000000e+02 1.170000e+02 4.000000e+02 10 9 12 1 1.240000e+02 4.000000e+02 1.240000e+02 4.000000e+02 5 10 9 1 1.150000e+02 4.000000e+02 1.150000e+02 4.000000e+02 5 10 11 1 1.220000e+02 4.000000e+02 1.220000e+02 4.000000e+02 9 10 11 1 1.240000e+02 4.000000e+02 1.240000e+02 4.000000e+02 9 12 13 1 1.170000e+02 4.000000e+02 1.170000e+02 4.000000e+02 9 12 14 1 1.220000e+02 4.000000e+02 1.220000e+02 4.000000e+02 13 12 14 1 1.220000e+02 4.000000e+02 1.220000e+02 4.000000e+02 12 13 28 1 1.110000e+02 4.000000e+03 1.110000e+02 4.000000e+02 2 16 20 1 1.170000e+02 4.000000e+02 1.170000e+02 4.000000e+02 2 16 24 1 1.200000e+02 4.000000e+02 1.200000e+02 4.000000e+02 20 16 24 1 1.120000e+02 4.000000e+02 1.120000e+02 4.000000e+02 7 17 18 1 1.200000e+02 4.000000e+02 1.200000e+02 4.000000e+02 7 17 19 1 1.210000e+02 4.000000e+02 1.210000e+02 4.000000e+02 7 17 29 1 1.130000e+02 4.000000e+02 1.130000e+02 4.000000e+02 18 17 19 1 5.990000e+01 4.000000e+02 5.990000e+01 4.000000e+02 18 17 29 1 1.170000e+02 4.000000e+02 1.170000e+02 4.000000e+02 19 17 29 1 1.170000e+02 4.000000e+02 1.170000e+02 4.000000e+02 17 18 19 1 6.010000e+01 4.000000e+02 6.010000e+01 4.000000e+02 17 18 30 1 1.170000e+02 4.000000e+02 1.170000e+02 4.000000e+02 17 18 31 1 1.180000e+02 4.000000e+02 1.180000e+02 4.000000e+02 19 18 30 1 1.190000e+02 4.000000e+02 1.190000e+02 4.000000e+02 19 18 31 1 1.170000e+02 4.000000e+02 1.170000e+02 4.000000e+02 30 18 31 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22 21 36 1 1.090000e+02 4.000000e+02 1.090000e+02 4.000000e+02 22 21 37 1 1.080000e+02 4.000000e+02 1.080000e+02 4.000000e+02 36 21 37 1 1.080000e+02 4.000000e+02 1.080000e+02 4.000000e+02 21 22 23 1 1.120000e+02 4.000000e+02 1.120000e+02 4.000000e+02 21 22 38 1 1.100000e+02 4.000000e+02 1.100000e+02 4.000000e+02 23 22 38 1 1.100000e+02 4.000000e+02 1.100000e+02 4.000000e+02 22 23 24 1 1.140000e+02 4.000000e+02 1.140000e+02 4.000000e+02 22 23 39 1 1.090000e+02 4.000000e+02 1.090000e+02 4.000000e+02 22 23 40 1 1.080000e+02 4.000000e+02 1.080000e+02 4.000000e+02 24 23 39 1 1.100000e+02 4.000000e+02 1.100000e+02 4.000000e+02 24 23 40 1 1.090000e+02 4.000000e+02 1.090000e+02 4.000000e+02 39 23 40 1 1.080000e+02 4.000000e+02 1.080000e+02 4.000000e+02 16 24 23 1 1.090000e+02 4.000000e+02 1.090000e+02 4.000000e+02 16 24 41 1 1.090000e+02 4.000000e+02 1.090000e+02 4.000000e+02 16 24 42 1 1.120000e+02 4.000000e+02 1.120000e+02 4.000000e+02 23 24 41 1 1.100000e+02 4.000000e+02 1.100000e+02 4.000000e+02 23 24 42 1 1.100000e+02 4.000000e+02 1.100000e+02 4.000000e+02 41 24 42 1 1.080000e+02 4.000000e+02 1.080000e+02 4.000000e+02 [ dihedrals ] ; ai aj ak al funct c0 c1 c2 c3 c4 c5 4 1 2 3 1 1.830000e+02 5.000000e+00 3.000000e+00 1.830000e+02 5.000000e+00 3.000000e+00 2 1 4 5 1 1.740000e+02 5.000000e+00 3.000000e+00 1.740000e+02 5.000000e+00 3.000000e+00 1 2 3 6 1 1.820000e+02 5.000000e+00 3.000000e+00 1.820000e+02 5.000000e+00 3.000000e+00 1 2 16 20 1 1.860000e+02 5.000000e+00 3.000000e+00 1.860000e+02 5.000000e+00 3.000000e+00 2 3 6 5 1 1.730000e+02 5.000000e+00 3.000000e+00 1.730000e+02 5.000000e+00 3.000000e+00 1 4 5 6 1 1.810000e+02 5.000000e+00 3.000000e+00 1.810000e+02 5.000000e+00 3.000000e+00 4 5 6 3 1 1.840000e+02 5.000000e+00 3.000000e+00 1.840000e+02 5.000000e+00 3.000000e+00 4 5 10 9 1 3.480000e+02 5.000000e+00 3.000000e+00 3.480000e+02 5.000000e+00 3.000000e+00 3 6 7 8 1 9.000000e+00 5.000000e+00 3.000000e+00 9.000000e+00 5.000000e+00 3.000000e+00 6 7 8 9 1 1.670000e+02 5.000000e+00 3.000000e+00 1.670000e+02 5.000000e+00 3.000000e+00 6 7 17 18 1 2.580000e+02 5.000000e+00 3.000000e+00 2.580000e+02 5.000000e+00 3.000000e+00 7 8 9 10 1 1.850000e+02 5.000000e+00 3.000000e+00 1.850000e+02 5.000000e+00 3.000000e+00 8 9 10 5 1 1.840000e+02 5.000000e+00 3.000000e+00 1.840000e+02 5.000000e+00 3.000000e+00 8 9 12 13 1 3.570000e+02 5.000000e+00 3.000000e+00 3.570000e+02 5.000000e+00 3.000000e+00 9 12 13 28 1 1.810000e+02 5.000000e+00 3.000000e+00 1.810000e+02 5.000000e+00 3.000000e+00 2 16 20 21 1 7.200000e+01 5.000000e+00 3.000000e+00 7.200000e+01 5.000000e+00 3.000000e+00 2 16 24 23 1 2.940000e+02 5.000000e+00 3.000000e+00 2.940000e+02 5.000000e+00 3.000000e+00 7 17 18 19 1 2.100000e+02 5.000000e+00 3.000000e+00 2.100000e+02 5.000000e+00 3.000000e+00 7 17 19 18 1 1.470000e+02 5.000000e+00 3.000000e+00 1.470000e+02 5.000000e+00 3.000000e+00 17 18 19 32 1 1.410000e+02 5.000000e+00 3.000000e+00 1.410000e+02 5.000000e+00 3.000000e+00 16 20 21 22 1 1.800000e+01 5.000000e+00 3.000000e+00 1.800000e+01 5.000000e+00 3.000000e+00 20 21 22 23 1 3.330000e+02 5.000000e+00 3.000000e+00 3.330000e+02 5.000000e+00 3.000000e+00 21 22 23 24 1 2.500000e+01 5.000000e+00 3.000000e+00 2.500000e+01 5.000000e+00 3.000000e+00 22 23 24 16 1 3.420000e+02 5.000000e+00 3.000000e+00 3.420000e+02 5.000000e+00 3.000000e+00 > > -- original message -- > > Hi all, > > I am trying to simulate a small organic molecule (42 atoms with 18 > hydrogens among them) in water (SPCE). The force field was generated > with X2TOP utility using GROMOS96 force field. All bonds, pairs, > angles, dihedrals, etc are OK and the system runs OK but sometimes it > craches producing several PDB files and CORE files. The message in the > standart output is: > > t = 122.523 ps: Water molecule starting at atom 2497 can not be settled. > Check for bad contacts and/or reduce the timestep. > Wrote pdb files with previous and current coordinates > Warning: 1-4 interaction between 62 and 80 at distance > 2653175545629928960.000 which is larger than the 1-4 table size 2.450 > nm > These are ignored for the rest of the simulation > This usually means your system is exploding, > if not, you should increase table-extension in your mdp file > or with user tables increase the table size > > t = 122.524 ps: Water molecule starting at atom 1009 can not be settled. > Check for bad contacts and/or reduce the timestep. > > t = 122.524 ps: Water molecule starting at atom 1693 can not be settled. > Check for bad contacts and/or reduce the timestep. > Wrote pdb files with previous and current coordinates > Wrote pdb files with previous and current coordinates > > The timestep is 1fs, the temperature varies from 25C up to 70C, > barostat is turned on. If I reduce the timestep to 0.25fs, the problem > does not appear fortunately but I would like to keep it equal to 1fs. > I am sure the problem is with an organic molecule because it doesn't > appear with SPCE water only. In the organic molecule nexcl=3 and all > angles are defined well. Trying LINCS instead, I got a big number of > warnings (>1000). > > What can be wrong with my force field (generated by X2TOP) else ? > > Thanks in advance. > > -- gmx-users mailing list gmx-users@gromacs.org http://lists.gromacs.org/mailman/listinfo/gmx-users Please search the archive at http://www.gromacs.org/search before posting! Please don't post (un)subscribe requests to the list. Use the www interface or send it to gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org. Can't post? Read http://www.gromacs.org/mailing_lists/users.php