João M. Damas wrote:
What do you mean by mutually inconsistent? From what I understand, they aren't.

I mean a set for which there is no molecular arrangement that satisfies.

Also, [bonds] type 6 won't work for what I want, since I don't want to keep the molecules at a fixed distance but to prevent them from coming closer, i.e. I want a potential that depends on the distance between the atoms.

Testing the distance restraints can be quite exhaustive when you have about 160 restraints, and I am considering just the test case I'm trying, not the actual system which will have some more organic molecules, which will lead to a greater amount of combination of restraints...

#ifdef is your friend here...

[ distance_restraints ]

<set to test now >

#ifdef BLAHBLAH

<set to test later>

#endif

Now you just move the #ifdef to rearrange your test cases.

I might start with an even smaller test case until you prove you can deal with both the input formatting issues and the physics issues with it. Testing will be faster, for starters.

Mark

On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 12:51 AM, Mark Abraham <mark.abra...@anu.edu.au <mailto:mark.abra...@anu.edu.au>> wrote:

    João M. Damas wrote:

        Gromacs users,

        I have a small test system of about 2500 atoms which consists on
        a few organic molecules in a box of water. I'm trying to use
        distance restraints to keep each molecule apart from each other
        and I've failed until now.

        I'll start by saying that the simulation runs smoothly without
        using distance restraints and that I've created a single
        molecule topology that describes all organic molecules, allowing
        the use of distance restraints. By applying just one distance
        restraint between two atoms of different molecules, the
        simulation still runs without problems. When I apply all the
        distance restraints I want, the system crashes in the first few
        steps with an XTC error, which is preceded by a few inconsistent
        shifts and some LINCS warnings. Varying the number of restraints
        that I use, makes the crash happen at later steps (500ish),
        meanwhile giving a lot of inconsistent shifts before crashing
        with a fatal error: Number of grid cells is zero. I know it
        seems I'm experimenting blindly, but varying the number of
        restraints was the first that occurred to me.
        I've searched the list for similar problems and tried a few more
        tests. I've turned off LINCS and reduced the time step and it
        didn't solve the problem, the box blew up after a few steps due
        to pressure problems. Since it could be a PBC problem, I tried
        to increase the size of the box, but it didn't solve the
        problem. Turning of PBC did solve the problem, but I really need
        PBC. I've also changed the low, up1 and up2 to values inferior
        to half the box size (I don't even care about the up1 and up2
        values in this application, and I was setting them to 5.0 nm
        before), but it didn't solve the problem either. I'm a little on
        a dead end here and I was hoping anyone could give me some insight.

        By the way, I'm using GROMACS 4.


    The simplest explanation is that your sets of distance restraints
    are mutually inconsistent. This destabilizes the system and
    eventually leads to your symptoms. Consider using [bonds] type 6,
    per advice of manual section 4.3.4. Either way, if you add these
    restraints one by one after testing that the previous set seemed to
    work OK (didn't crash, trajectory looks right), you may uncover your
    issue.

    Mark
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