Jamie Seyed wrote:
Yes Thanks Justin, should I just use the linear part of msd for fit even if it is short (like 14ps from 200ps)? Thanks/Jamie


Yes, the linear portion of the graph should be used for MSD analysis. 200 ps is somewhat short, but might be sufficient for water.

-Justin

On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 8:02 PM, Justin A. Lemkul <jalem...@vt.edu <mailto:jalem...@vt.edu>> wrote:



    Jamie Seyed wrote:

        Thanks Mark,
        here are the links.
        http://www.psc.edu/general/software/packages/gromacs/online/water.html
         http://www.mail-archive.com/gmx-users@gromacs.org/msg07653.html
         I tried your advice with 1 water molecule and since it worked I
        tried it with SOL.ndx, but I got
        D[SOL] -0.0333(+/- 0.0370) 1e-5 cm^2/s
        It seems not reasonable to me (negative and its error is bigger
        than itself). Any idea?


    Probably inadequate sampling, either from the number of frames
    saved, or from the length of the simulation itself.

    -Justin

        Thanks in Advance/Jamie


        On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 7:02 PM, Mark Abraham
        <mark.abra...@anu.edu.au <mailto:mark.abra...@anu.edu.au>
        <mailto:mark.abra...@anu.edu.au
        <mailto:mark.abra...@anu.edu.au>>> wrote:

           Jamie Seyed wrote:

               Hi Mark,
               Thanks for the puzzling answer. I tried the index file
        counting
               the number of water molecule but I got an error.
               "Fatal error:
               The index group does not consist of whole molecules"


           OK so apparently it wants atom indices for whole molecules. That
           seems much more plausible to me than David's advice you quoted
           (please give URLs to such quotes in future, perhaps you took
        it out
           of context...)

           So try giving it atom indices for a whole water molecule as an
           experiment. Seems like an obvious try to me :-) Then, scale
        it up if
           it seems to work.


               I also did not understand what you pointed out about "One of
               these sets of numbers is larger than the other" ...


           One of the set of atom indices in a protein and the set of
        molecule
           indices in a solvated protein will have more members than the
        other.
           Instead of asking which is right, you might try out a case
        that will
           fail under one assumption and work under the other :-) Then
        perhaps
           ask a question with some evidence behind it.


               questions:
               1) for msd calculation for water molecules, do I need really
               make index file for all waters,
               2) What I made (count the water molecules in a [mymolecules]
               index file), did not work. How I suppose to do make that?
               3) In getting started-Water page that I found in google
        it only
               say "g_msd -n index" and did not explain which index... how
               about if I use oxygen.ndx file??


           Provide links, please. We're not going to duplicate your
        googling.

           Mark

               I really appreciate your help. Many Thanks in Advance/Jamie



                On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 3:33 PM, Mark Abraham
               <mark.abra...@anu.edu.au <mailto:mark.abra...@anu.edu.au>
        <mailto:mark.abra...@anu.edu.au <mailto:mark.abra...@anu.edu.au>>
               <mailto:mark.abra...@anu.edu.au
        <mailto:mark.abra...@anu.edu.au>
               <mailto:mark.abra...@anu.edu.au
        <mailto:mark.abra...@anu.edu.au>>>> wrote:

                  Jamie Seyed wrote:

                      Dear all,
                      I want to calculate the msd using g_msd. I have a
               macromolecule
                      and some (let say 100) water molecules and I want
        to use
               msd for
                      water only. from the manual and list I think I need to
               make an
                      index for molecules (water) and use -mol option.
                       From David's answer on the list I found
                      -----------------------------------------------------
                      "If you know which molecules they are then you
        just write
               in a
                      text editor:
                      [ mymolecules ]
                      3 5 19 23 45 109"
                      ----------------------------------------------------
                      My question is: let say the macromolecule is
        coming first
               in the
                      pdb file and then there are water molecules. If I
        want to
               make
                      an index for only waters, according to this
        advice, should I
                      write 2 3 4... 100  (just remove 1 that goes for
               macromolecule)
                      I am wondering if there is a confliction between these
                      numbers(refer to molecules) and atom numbers of
                      macromolecule.... Would you please clarify this
        for me??


                  Try it and see. One of these sets of numbers is larger
        than the
                  other, and if you use a number in that interval you'll
        either
               get an
                  error or success, either of which will answer your
        question.

                  Mark
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