Hi Tsjerk, thanks for the usual useful suggestions! Probably I will go for that, add an harmonic bonds between Cu2+ and N-HIS and I will think how to hand the charges too. Probably this is the less worst solution for now.
Thank a lot, Regards andrea Tsjerk Wassenaar wrote: > Hi Andrea, > > You're probably best off 'fixing' the copper to the protein, meaning > introducing bonds at least (harmonic, type 6?). With these bonds you > can to some degree account for the effects of polarization and such on > the interatomic distances, which are likely more difficult to model > reparameterizing the non-bonded interactions. You should also > definitely consider that there is considerable polarization and charge > transfer in such metal clusters, which means that you should probably > attenuate the charges of the copper as well as of the ligating atoms. > For the ligation geometry you can try to rely on size-exclusion > effects of the ligands, but copper may prove nasty, in which case you > also need to set parameters for angles and maybe for dihedrals. Not > for naught that newbies are usually discouraged for performing > simulations like these (exotic species)... But you had already > considered that. > > Hope this helps, > > Tsjerk > > On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 12:40 PM, andrea > spitaleri<spitaleri.and...@hsr.it> wrote: >> Dear all, >> I am going to run some MD simulation of a protein bearing a copper cluster >> (3 Cu2+ nominally charge >> 2+) coordinates to histidine residues. As far as concerning the importance >> of this cluster in the >> enzymatic activity (this would require QM/MM), my issue is how to interpret >> the "whole" system >> [HIS_{2}-Cu2+]_{3} in term of force field. From literature and from previous >> posts in this mailing >> list, in MD system similar to mine (aminoacid coordinating ions) are treated >> as an unique "residues" >> (i.e. HEME group). My first try was to perform MD without restraints on >> Cu2+, but unfortunately at >> 100K (I am doing an equilibration from 100K to 300K) after few ps one of the >> Cu2+ left already its >> position (basically it is flying away). >> Second try was to put restraints on the system between the Cu2+ and the >> N-HIS. However, my doubt is >> how bad is this assumption respect to the possibility to consider the whole >> system Cu2+-HIS as an >> unique residue in the topology file. I am aware that for the latest >> hypothesis I should reconsider >> all the properties (i.e. charges, angles, etc ...), so a long way and hard >> work. Think about that I >> need to put a O2 molecule inside of the Cu2+ cluster in a second study. >> >> Any suggestion, comments and anything else are very welcome. >> >> Thanks in advance >> >> Regards >> >> andrea >> >> -- >> ------------------------------- >> Andrea Spitaleri PhD >> Dulbecco Telethon Institute >> c/o DIBIT Scientific Institute >> Biomolecular NMR, 1B4 >> Via Olgettina 58 >> 20132 Milano (Italy) >> Tel: 0039-0226434348/5622/3497/4922 >> Fax: 0039-0226434153 >> http://sites.google.com/site/andreaspitaleri/ >> ------------------------------- >> >> ----------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> La tua mano puo' lasciare un segno importante. >> Dona il tuo 5 per mille al San Raffaele di Milano. >> >> E' SEMPLICE E NON COSTA NULLA. >> Basta indicare nell'apposito riquadro della dichiarazione dei redditi >> "Finanziamento della ricerca sanitaria" >> il codice fiscale della Fondazione Centro S. 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