Hi Berk,
Thanks very much. I've found the problem. As you said I forgot to increase 
rvdw. So the buffer is zero and the system needs to update the nblist every 
step, which is obviously wrong. After I corrected the mistake, the speed for 
"nstlist=-1" is roughly three times faster as I expected.
Lanyuan

From: g...@hotmail.com
To: gmx-users@gromacs.org
Subject: RE: [gmx-users] "nstlist=-1" and performance problem
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 10:42:59 +0100








Hi,

I assume you did not only change nstlist, but also other mdp settings, or not?

Changing only nstlist from 1 to -1 should result in nearly equal or much faster 
speeds.

For efficient simulations with nslist=-1 you need to set an appropriate
buffer region (rlist > rcoulomb=rvdw). In 4.0 you have to optimize this by hand.
It would be nice to have this automated.
At the end of the log file (a run of a few minutes is enough) you can see what
the neighborlist lifetime is. Optimal is usually something between 10 and 20.
Play with rlist to optimize the performance (also printed at the end of the log 
file).

Berk

From: lulany...@msn.com
To: gmx-users@gromacs.org
Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 17:31:43 -0500
Subject: [gmx-users] "nstlist=-1" and performance problem








Hello,
Could Berk or someone else answer my question regarding the new "nstlist=-1" 
option in gmx4? In my understanding, the algorithm for this option is the one 
used in DLPOLY/LAMMPS. However, When I was trying two gromacs runs with 
"nstlist=-1" and "nstlist=1", I found the speeds were basically the same. Isn't 
this automatic nblist checking supposed to be faster than updating the nblist 
every step? I also did similar tests on LAMMPS for the same system and found 
the speed for automatical updating was several times faster. As a result, 
although Gromacs is about 60% faster if we choose nstlist=1,  it's much slower 
than LAMMPS if we choose the automatic nblist updating. 
Thanks in advance for any ideas about it.
Lanyuan Lu


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