On Jan 10, 2009, at 8:32 PM, Nicolas wrote:

Berk Hess a écrit :
Hi,

Setting -npme 2 is ridicolous.
mdrun estimates the number of PME nodes by itself when you do not specify -npme.
In most cases you need 1/3 or 1/4 of the nodes doing pme.
The default -npme guess of mdrun is usually not bad,
but might need to tuned a bit.
At the end of the md.log file you find the relative PP/PME load
so you can see in which direction you might need to change -npme,
if necessary.
Actually, I have tested npme ranging from 0 to 5, but 2 is well representative of what happens. For example with 5 cores for the PME, the perfs reach a plateau at 14-15 cores. So, setting npme to 0 systematically gives the best results. I have also tested -1. With, npme set to -1, the performances are the same than for 0 until 8 cores. Above that, the guess is not so efficient.

Hi Nicolas,

as Berk mentioned, you should expect a different optimal number of PME nodes for each number of total nodes you test on. So the way to go is to fix the number of total nodes and vary the number of PME nodes until you find the best performance for that number of nodes. Then move on to another number of total nodes. I have written a small tool that does a part of this job for you by finding out the optimum number of PME nodes for a given number of total nodes. If you want to give it a try, I can send it to you. Typically the optimum number of PME nodes should not be too far off the mdrun estimate. If it is far off, this could point out some network or MPI problem. Note that separate PME nodes can only work if the MPI ranks are not scattered among the nodes, i.e. on 4-core nodes the ranks 0-3 should be on the same node as well as ranks 4-7 and so on. This is printed at the very start of a parallel
simulation.

Carsten



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