In the case of ocean iron fertilization, I could see efforts of proponents to argue a "bundle" of economic benefits. For example, take the case of the ocean iron fertilization experiment conducted by off the coast of Canada in July, 2012 by Russ George, a guy who used to head up a company named "Planktos," a company that hoped to ultimately cash in on ocean iron fertilization and sought to skirt U.S. ocean law to conduct experiments. George and the Haida Nation tribe argued that the primary goal of the experiment off the Canadian coast was to stimulate fish production by increasing prey:
<http://climateviewer.com/2013/10/10/the-haida-salmon-restoration-project-du mping-iron-in-the-ocean-to-save-fish-capture-carbon/> http://climateviewer.com/2013/10/10/the-haida-salmon-restoration-project-dum ping-iron-in-the-ocean-to-save-fish-capture-carbon/ To the extent that carbon credits can now be obtained (at least conceptually) for reductions netted from carbon capture and storage projects, it's not much of a leap to see this in the context of air capture schemes also, ditto olivine mineralization or other carbon dioxide removal schemes that fall under the rubric of climate geoengineering. Dr. Wil Burns, Associate Director Master of Science, Energy Policy & Climate Program Johns Hopkins University 1717 Massachusetts Ave., NW Washington, DC 20036 650.281.9126 (Mobile) 202.452.8713 (Fax) http://energy.jhu.edu Skype ID: Wil.Burns Blog: Teaching Climate/Energy Law & Policy, <http://www.teachingclimatelaw.org/> http://www.teachingclimatelaw.org From: craig harris [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Sunday, February 02, 2014 12:33 PM To: [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: RE: [gep-ed] spying on climate change hi neil and wil, one of my guiding maxims is "with capitalism, all things are possible" . . . so i think it would be useful to ask the question, what regulatory gaps exist that would allow geoengineering to emerge from the market . . . especially in the current climate of neoliberalism, any technology that is not clearly regulated is considered to be unregulated . . . cheers, craig craig k harris associate professor department of sociology michigan agbio research center for regional food systems michigan state university east lansing michigan usa <http://www.msu.edu/~harrisc> www.msu.edu/~harrisc From: <mailto:[email protected]> [email protected] [ <mailto:[email protected]> mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of NeilE. Harrison Sent: Sunday, February 02, 2014 2:16 PM To: <mailto:[email protected]> [email protected]; GEPED Subject: RE: [gep-ed] spying on climate change Wil: I would agree. While we and our contributors only looked primarily at the US innovation system and its historical effects (we need to do more research on innovation in Europe), geoengineering would be a 'natural' extension of the preferred tech fix approach that is probably the ultimate tech folly. But that, too, will not emerge from the market (thankfully). As for other climate innovations, we reject the widely accepted market model of the innovation system and propose how many institutions will need to change. We submitted the corrected proofs last week and the book is scheduled to be released March 3. It is available for pre-order on Amazon (and at a much lower cost than my other recently released book Sustainable Capitalism and the Pursuit of Well-Being) but I'll let you know when it is formally published, Cheers, Neil Neil E. Harrison, Ph.D. Executive Director The Sustainable Development Institute ( <http://www.sd-institute.org)P.O> www.sd-institute.org) P.O. Box 423 Laramie, WY 82073 Author, Sustainable Capitalism and the Pursuit of Well-Being (Routledge 2014) more information at <http://www.routledge.com/books/details/9780415662819> www.routledge.com/books/details/9780415662819 Co-Editor, Climate Innovation: Liberal Capitalism and Climate Change (Palgrave Macmillan 2014) more information at <http://us.macmillan.com/climateinnovation/NeilEHarrison> http://us.macmillan.com/climateinnovation/NeilEHarrison. Author, Constructing Sustainable Development (SUNY Press) Co-Editor, Science and Politics in the International Environment (Rowman and Littlefield) Editor, Complexity in World Politics (SUNY Press) Editor, National, Regional and Global Institutions, Infrastructures and Governance, Vol. 1, National and Regional Institutions and Infrastructures. London and Paris: EOLSS/UNESCO, 2008. (EOLSS/UNESCO) _____ From: "Wil Burns" < <mailto:[email protected]> [email protected]> Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2014 10:28 PM To: <mailto:[email protected]> [email protected], <mailto:[email protected]> [email protected], "GEPED" < <mailto:[email protected]> [email protected]> Subject: RE: [gep-ed] spying on climate change The increasingly loud drumbeats for consideration of climate geoengineering may prove to be another manifestation of Neil & John's thesis. wil Dr. Wil Burns, Associate Director Master of Science, Energy Policy & Climate Program Johns Hopkins University 1717 Massachusetts Ave., NW Washington, DC 20036 650.281.9126 (Mobile) 202.452.8713 (Fax) <http://energy.jhu.edu> http://energy.jhu.edu Skype ID: Wil.Burns Blog: Teaching Climate/Energy Law & Policy, <http://www.teachingclimatelaw.org/> http://www.teachingclimatelaw.org From: <mailto:[email protected]> [email protected] [ <mailto:[email protected]> mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of NeilE. Harrison Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2014 7:11 PM To: <mailto:[email protected]> [email protected]; GEPED Subject: re: [gep-ed] spying on climate change John Mikler and I did not consider this application of technological innovation to climate change mitigation in our new edited book due out next month from Palgrave Macmillan titled Climate Innovation: Liberal Capitalism and Climate Change. Climate innovation for us is 'technological innovation designed to mitigate climate change'. We expect that the US and many other countries would prefer to use technological innovation to mitigate climate change so that they can avoid regulating economic and social activities that produce GHGs. A tech fix is preferred to a socioeconomic fix. Although the US is famed for its technological innovation, we and our contributors show that its liberal capitalist ideology and reliance on markets prevents the US from generating and disseminating climate innovations that, unlike NSA snooping, will actually contribute to solving the global problem. We further show that without improbable institutional changes the US will not generate significant climate innovation and will quite possibly end up importing from China much of the technology it needs to meet its 2020 and 2050 emissions goals, Cheers, Neil Neil E. Harrison, Ph.D. Executive Director The Sustainable Development Institute ( <http://www.sd-institute.org/> www.sd-institute.org - note: website is being moved and will be offline for a few hours) P.O. Box 423 Laramie, WY 82073 Author, Sustainable Capitalism and the Pursuit of Well-Being (Routledge 2014) more information at <http://www.routledge.com/books/details/9780415662819> www.routledge.com/books/details/9780415662819 Co-Editor, Climate Innovation: Liberal Capitalism and Climate Change (Palgrave Macmillan 2014) more information at <http://us.macmillan.com/climateinnovation/NeilEHarrison> http://us.macmillan.com/climateinnovation/NeilEHarrison. Author, Constructing Sustainable Development (SUNY Press) Co-Editor, Science and Politics in the International Environment (Rowman and Littlefield) Editor, Complexity in World Politics (SUNY Press) Editor, National, Regional and Global Institutions, Infrastructures and Governance, Vol. 1, National and Regional Institutions and Infrastructures. London and Paris: EOLSS/UNESCO, 2008. (EOLSS/UNESCO) _____ From: "Paul Steinberg" < <mailto:[email protected]> [email protected]> Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2014 1:58 PM To: "GEPED" < <mailto:[email protected]> [email protected]> Subject: [gep-ed] spying on climate change GEPers may be interested in this news reported in The Guardian. It appears that the US has a unique interpretation of technological innovation to address climate change: <http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2014/jan/30/snowden-nsa-spying-copen hagen-climate-talks> http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2014/jan/30/snowden-nsa-spying-copenh agen-climate-talks Paul -- Paul F. Steinberg Malcolm Lewis Chair in Sustainability and Society Professor of Political Science & Environmental Policy Harvey Mudd College <http://www.hmc.edu/steinberg> http://www.hmc.edu/steinberg Department of Humanities, Social Sciences, & the Arts 301 East Platt Boulevard Harvey Mudd College Claremont, CA 91711 tel. 909-607-3840 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "gep-ed" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to <mailto:[email protected]> [email protected]. For more options, visit <https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out> https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "gep-ed" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> . 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