Hi Sorin,

All very good suggestions! Big thanks! I do like your final idea about
"materialized views". I was thinking the same thing since a simple crontab
job (at least in my Linux/PG world) would do it nicely.

I might also try to export the data and import them into PG/PostGIS to see
if there are any obvious gains in performance. But first, I am going to
tinker more with SQL Server and try your suggestions.

Cheers,
Cliff

On Mon, Dec 17, 2018 at 9:52 AM Rusu Sorin <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi Cliff,
>
> I would first look into desktop performance and average response times
> from the database. If the DB views are un-indexed or the index is woefully
> out of date, I am expecting to see similarly slow performance on the
> desktop side. (Suggest using QGIS which is lightning fast even with very
> large datasets). Not very sure about DB performance if you are using SQL
> geometry, and not really sure what to recommend to build spatial indexes in
> the DB (try QGIS, see how it works).
>
> Once the appropriate DB-tuning is done in the DB/Desktop environment I
> would then look to the Geoserver WMS/WFS services and look at individual
> response times for a "full" WMS GetMap request. If low response times and
> if you envisage little traffice on the application side, you could just use
> the WMS. If the KVP/Get reponse is slow then it might be a Geoserver issue
> that is worth investigating the production configurations you have. This
> might be a good place to start:
> https://www.slideshare.net/geosolutions/geoserver-in-production-we-do-it-here-is-how-foss4g-2016
>
> While SQL Server should work fine, most "big" db implementations I've seen
> usually relly on PostgreSQL + Postgis and QGIS Desktop for data management.
>
> Leaflet is light-weight, and should let the map run a lot faster, just
> keep the number of plugins in check.
> Geojson is a good way of reducing the number of requests being sent to GS,
> and should help with overall performance and there should be native support
> in GS for GeoJSON output.
> Would recommend you look into materialized views if your data is not
> constantly being updated, but maybe updated once a day, instead of relying
> on simple DB views.
>
> Sorin R.
> Pe luni, 17 decembrie 2018, 16:37:48 EET, Cliff Patterson <
> [email protected]> a scris:
>
>
> I am redesigning a webmap application that loads vector grid data from a
> series of SQL Server tables using a SQL View in Geoserver. Variables are
> passed via the WMS call to display dynamic content (e.g. the count of
> species X for project Y from 2005 to 2010 will display counts on a UTM
> polygon grid). There are millions of records in the database, and the data
> are queried via a series of joins (flat tables are joined with geometry)
> and grouped by UTM grid cell. There are thousands of grid cells, 100s of
> species per grid, 26 possible project categories per species, and a date
> range from 1960s to 2018.
>
> Using SQL Views in Geoserver, the calls are very slow using a Google Map
> JS, if they work at all. I am tasked with improving the overall performance
> of the application from the back end up. I wanted to ask this user group if
> anyone has experience dealing with similarly large datasets with Geoserver,
> especially data from SQL Server. I would tackle this very differently if
> the data were in PG/PostGIS, but in SQL Server everything seems rather slow
> (and painful).
>
> Here's what I'm thinking:
>
> 1) Use Leaflet over Google Maps API -- more a preference, but I also
> suspect a performance boost for WMS layers.
> 2) Maybe consider fetching the data as a single GeoJSON so that the
> database is not pinged on every pan/zoom.
> 3) Develop a "neater" table that can be queried using CQL to eliminate the
> rather complex joining and grouping query on every pan/zoom.
>
> Can anyone suggest a good strategy (or critique my suggestions above) to
> serve these data and improve overall responsiveness?
>
> Huge thanks,
> Cliff
>
>
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