On 11 Aug 2009, at 20:31, Grant Edwards wrote:
On 2009-08-11, Stroller <strol...@stellar.eclipse.co.uk> wrote:

I'm just really curious why `dd` works perfectly fine the last time,
but not the first.

Hasn't this been answered several times already?


No, it hasn't.

Presumably it works the second time but not the first time
because between the two attempts you've run a program that has
written the decryption keys to the optical drive.

I'm just looking for a better answer than ones prefaced with "presumably" and which treat DeCSS encryption like it's black magic.

I don't say that to offend anyone, because I'm sure none of the other posters doing so are claiming to be experts on the subject, either.

Presumably anyone replying saying "oh, it must be something like this" is interested in discussing their conjecture.

If you disagree with that answer, please esplain why rather
than just re-asking the question again and again.


Well, in the case of the message you quoted, the poster seemed not to have read the cloning.txt console log I posted. He seemed to be telling me that what I have done is "impossible" and I was correcting his misunderstanding.

You will see that I already explained in my message of 11 August 2009 19:58:11 BST some aspects of this still confuse me.

If you'd like me to clarify that post further then I guess the best way I can explain it is: if I've "run a program that has written the decryption keys to the optical drive" (your words), how come mplayer still has to retrieve the CSS keys (see cloning.txt) when it's run on the disc.iso file? (using "-dvd-device" argument) The answer to that is surely "because the movie is still encrypted", so (to me) that begs the question "why's the movie file still encrypted if I've written the decryption keys to the optical drive?"

This seems to me to be a logical loop, and I'd really be genuinely glad for someone to explain where I'm looking at it wrong (but please ignore this message if the subject is bothering you).

I suspect someone who really understands what's going on here doesn't need the additional clarification of my previous 2 paragraphs. There's probably a really simple explanation for what's going on here.

Stroller.


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