On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 13:45, Mark Knecht<markkne...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 9:07 AM, Stroller<strol...@stellar.eclipse.co.uk> 
> wrote:
>>
>> On 12 Jun 2009, at 15:40, Paul Hartman wrote:
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 9:29 AM, Justin<jus...@j-schmitz.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Harry Putnam schrieb:
>>>>>
>>>>> Is there a way to veiw the very latest packages on portage without
>>>>> syncing my OS?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://sources.gentoo.org/viewcvs.py/gentoo-x86/
>>>
>>> also http://packages.gentoo.org/
>>>
>>> or http://gentoo-portage.com/Newest
>>
>> The problem with this is that it's difficult to determine which packages on
>> one's own system have updated. One must check individually for each atom in
>> world.
>>
>>
>> Harry:
>>
>> I'm not sure if it's possible _without_ syncing, but you can `cp -a
>> /usr/portage /usr/portage.orig`, sync, `emerge -pv world` and then move the
>> original tree back if you want to.
>>
>> It's not really clear why you're asking, or why you're unable to sync. If
>> the PC has no internet connection, for instance, security updates are
>> unimportant.
>>
>> Stroller.
>
> I've wanted a way to do something like this for a long time. One
> problem with the way portage works with ( I guess) rsync or whatever
> it uses is that when someone decides to remove a package from portage
> that I'm currently using syncing removes it from my system also.
> Unfortunately before I do the sync I have no idea it has been removed
> so I don't know that it's going to get taken off my system. Once it
> does I can go find a copy and put it in a personal overlay but that
> requires I do the work after the damage is done. It would be nice if
> there was a message ahead of time that told me certain packages were
> going to be removed, etc., before it was actually done, but I
> understand from previous conversations that syncing doesn't work that
> way.
>
> This has come up numerous times for me on older hardware where, for
> instance, maybe some on-board graphics chip only works with older ATI
> drivers, and that ATI driver only works with older kernels. By the
> time sync is done I've lost the code for what my system is running,
> and unfortunately there's no messages that this is happening when I'm
> doing the sync so maybe I only figure it out a few weeks later and
> then have to mess around building an overlay using the attic.
>

Portage keeps a copy of installed packages under /var/db/pkg, AFAIK.
So, even if sync removes it from the tree, you can move it from /var
to your local overlay and keep using it... If you are doying a fresh
install, you can get the old ebuilds from the attic.

-- 
Daniel da Veiga

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