On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 4:46 PM, Mark Knecht <markkne...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 2:38 PM, Mark Knecht <markkne...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 2:21 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann
>> <volkerar...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>> <SNIP>
>>>
>>> portage does not remove the packages from the distfiles directory and all
>>> ebuilds are available from cvs even years after they have been removed.
>>>
>>
>> First comment is incorrect, or correct if you're doing your regular
>> Volker routine and think I should have said emerge instead of portage.
>> None the less, packages that have been depreciated are first removed
>> from portage and then when I run eix-sync are removed from my system,
>> and have been for years now.
>>
>> ebuilds are available long after tha package has been depreciated.
>> Probably the actual code is available also. That said, once given to
>> me and put into use on my system it shouldn't be taken off my system
>> without permission just because someone doesn't want to support it.
>> (Even for security reasons. Even that should be my business, but I
>> understand others will have other opinions on this part.)
>>
>> Even a flag that stated what revision I don't want to have removed
>> would be better than what goes on right now.
>>
>> - Marl
>>
> Volker,
>   I apologize for speaking quite so strongly here. No reason for me
> to have done that.
>
>   I think you may be correct, but the problem still exist. The
> problem is that you can be running an driver on your system. The
> portage maintainers depreciate it. the ebuilds get stripped form my
> machine. Sometime later I choose to clean up distfiles and delete the
> driver, thinking I can download it again because the version I'm
> running is masked to be the only one I want. I do an emerge sync and
> find out it's no longer in portage and have to do a lot of work to get
> it back again.
>
>   I think portage could be far more nuanced in this area if it
> noticed what I was actually running on the system and moved a copy of
> everything somewhere on my system to keep me safe.
>
>   Again, I apologize for speaking so strongly. Your consistent
> better-than-others tone sets me off, but that's no reason for me to
> react publicly. My bad.

Maybe a "sunset" overlay with old obsolete ebuilds to complement the
"sunrise" overlay of things-yet-to-hit portage?

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