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James wrote:
> OK, color me "dense", but, if we are assuming  there should be
> a smooth (easy) transition from kde-meta to kde "sets" I'm 
> missing something. The posted lists (sets) do not look anything
> like the way kde-meta is organized.
> 
> 
> Call it herd mentality, but I bet many of the current kde-meta
> crowd would just love to have these sets defined for us
> and we can choose which of these generic sets we want,
> and then just build a set or 2 of our own. Then make a file
> that lists those and all we have to do is emerge that file.
> Poof done, kde-meta, simple fast and mostly like what other 
> have, using gentoo defined sets for kde-4.2.x
> 
> Should we not have some standard, logical listing of
> of the various kde packages, like the current categories 
> for kde 3.5.x, only in set form? Sure folks could build there
> own sets but if all you want is the old kde-meta (give or 
> take a few application), in sets+kde.4.2.x form, there
> should be some predefined sets for us?
> 
> That is to say, (more clearly I hope); when I go to the kde
> button in 3.5.9, I get these categories:
> Development
> Entertainment
> Games
> Graphics
> <snip>
> 
> So what aren't there pre-defined sets with this sort of grouping?
> Thus the new kde-4.2.x would be a straight convert (except
> for applications that are lost and/or gained) to ease the transition
> to kde 4.2.x  using sets. Really, all I want is a similar setup
> to kde-meta, via sets && Kde 4.2.x, without having to get
> intimate with 200+ applications..... and not having to 
> define my own sets.
> 
> 
> Is this already done?
> 
> Looking at the previous links and Neils postings, at first glance
> it tells me I'm going to have to spend days learning about what all
> of these individual packages do to have a somewhat similar setup
> that kde-meta provided. I do not what to learn the details and names
> of all of that stuff. I want to emerge a small number of sets
> and POOF as close as I can get (with sets and kde4.2) to the
> ole kde-meta?
> 
> Am I being unreasonable? Did I miss something?
> (and yes, I'm lazy, mentally crippled, and slow
> that's why I still do admin work....)

There are predefined sets in the kde-testing overlay, that correspond to
the upstream tarballs (and, therefore, to the kdefoo-meta packages).
Unfortunately, they cannot yet be distributed with the gentoo-x86 tree
(that's $PORTDIR, or /usr/portage, for you playing along at home).  I
don't remember the reasons given for that, but you can copy the sets
from that tree, and place them in your /etc/portage/sets/ directory, and
modify them at will - or create your own based on those sets.  Note that
you do not actually need that overlay installed to use the sets; all you
have to do is copy the sets from the overlay into your local configuration.

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