On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 12:15:36 -0800 "Andrey Falko" <ma3ox...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > It is about catalystframework, which is in the perl-experimental > > overlay (a misnomer if ever there was one, "experimental"). It is > > about perl 5.10.0, which is long overdue for making it into the > > tree (never mind just into an overlay). > > > You want to upgrade to perl 5.10.0 on an experimental/testing box? Or > do you need perl 5.10.0 for a production environment? Its an upgrade. New features. I want it. Others are already using it. Waaaaah! '-) Seriously, 5.8 is being deprecated. Perl6 is what is experimental. Just check what distros have perl 5.10 and which don't. It doesn't look good for Gentoo! > > > > Also, it is about the (likely) painful migration that will come and > > how to get informed now. > > > > If there is a migration to perl 5.10.0 in the future, it will be as > smooth as possible for users, especially those who stick to all > non-~x86 or custom packages. I hate to even reply to this, but install catalystframework (which isn't experimental in the least, BTW) on a non-~arch system and get back to me. '-) And what do you mean by 'if' there is a migration? Is it possible Gentoo will always only offer perl 5.8, and never the current version 5.10? I mean, I can get 5.10 on Windows from Active State! > Worst case scenario is that you'll have > to follow an official guide that has you run some extra commands to > ensure that upgrade goes through without problems for Gentoo users. > perl 5.10.0 will not be marked stable until all upgrade issues are What upgrade issues (where's the link to this list)? > cleared either via appropriate documentation (official upgrade guide) > or via bug fixes elsewhere. What bugs? What documents? (Could you please provide the links to items you reference?) I hate to seem grouchy, but really I'm looking for sources of related information, not a pat on the hand. '-) It seems you have information I have yet to discover, so please provide some documentation if it exists. > > > > However, it pretty much confirms, by omission, that there are no > > plans/actions by the gentoo tree maintainers to address perl > > 5.10.0, I have to assume, or someone would have mentioned it. (But > > how to find out for sure?) It seems this still stands absent contradicting evidence, "there are no plans/actions by the gentoo tree maintainers to address perl 5.10.0". True, or false? How to know for sure? > If you need perl 5.10.0 in a production environment, now or in the > future, then you might as well file a bug in bugs.gentoo.org > requesting that perl 5.10.0 be put into the tree and stabilized. Yeah, they are already there. Are the bugs filed so far insufficiently illustrating the problem? > If > there is enough interest by users and developers in getting 5.10.0 > into the tree and stable, then you will likely see this bug resolved. > If on the other hand you are the only one interested, then > unfortunately you'll have to do the work in doing the work. So, unless a certain number of folks file bugs about a version bump, we don't get current version upgrades? That seems shortsighted, at best. > > I am confused about what you're intentions and needs are. Hopefully > I've addressed some of your concerns or worries. Well, as you didn't provide any documentation, nothing is addressed to my satisfaction. I'm not even sure -- are you part of the herd? -- where/how you base your replies... OTOH, what you've asserted, if not in fact baseless, makes me worry even more. :( Thanks, sincerely, for your reply, though. '-) Cheers, -- |\ /| | | ~ ~ | \/ | |---| `|` ? | |ichael | |iggins \^ / michael.higgins[at]evolone[dot]org
