[EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb am 30.11.2008 13:31:
> Hi Alan,
> 
> the problem is... :)
> 
> I own a iRiver T60 mp3 player, which uses the VFAT fs as
> so many usbstick-like mass storage devices do.
> 
> It /seems/ (which is equivalent to "i dont know, whether..."),
> that the sequence in which the songs are played depend
> on the sequence they were entered into the VFAT. Whith
> rsync I could manage to copy the files, which carry the
> trackno as the the first two characters in their filename.
> in alphabetically order onto the device.
> 
> So nice ... so good.
> BUT:
> In some rare cases the T60 insists in playing songs in
> a different order.
> Why ? No clue...
> 
> Another aspect of this is: If I will delete a couple of
> files on the device and rsync some new, the previously freed
> directory/VFAT entries will be occupied first, before new
> ones will be used, which will screw up the playing order
> totally.
> 
> Now I am looking for a VFAT editor and analyzer, which
> permits me to explore and eventually -- if needed --
> "hack" the VFAT into a different order, so that my
> files will be played in the correct track order without
> reformatting the device in whole for any delete/add file
> action I want to do.
> 
> If there is anything outside there, which will help
> me to manage this task ... it would be very nice!
> 
> Thank you very much for your help and time in advance!
> Kind regards
> mcc
> 

The firmware iriver provides to use their player as an usb mass storage
device is simply crap. I also use one of the first players that firmware
was available for. Now I see you own a newer player and still nothing
has changed.

And you are right the order is controlled by the order they are saved to
the filesystem. It seems this is only true for the usb driver and not
the mtp driver which is afaik only usable on windows.

So the solution would be to make the driver smart enough to give control
over the play order either by filename or better an option to look up
the tags and sort according to different tags. But I guess this wont
happen anytime soon.

The problem was also reported here [1], but I guess you know this link
as the rsync solution was also posted there.

Regards,

Daniel

[1] https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/2008-January/135493.html

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