> Mike Frysinger - he's a busy man :-) He heads up the gentoo toolchain team, is > a lead kernel dev on the blackfin architecture, recently was (maybe still is) > on the gentoo council. And maintains an e17 overlay. Oh boy. I would donate money to him if I wasn't a poor student and if the dollar wasn't so overvalued related to my national currency ($1 was R$1,58 some months ago, but is now R$2,10). By the way, people like him should keep an easy way of receiving anonymous donations. I plan on donating a little money to free software in the future. I think I will donate to national projects, because they are probably more starved than projects in the US, the land where hammers are made of gold.
>> Also, why are the snapshot ebuilds so horribly outdated? > The snapshot ebuilds are not out of date - the e17 snapshots are :-) It seems (see http://download.enlightenment.org/snapshots/LATEST/) that the latest e17 snapshots are from 2008-09-24. However, last time I checked the e17 overlay (and I can't easily check it now because I am at work), the snapshot ebuilds were a year old or something. > If you use e17 svn code, be prepared to act like a dev. That's what the e17 > team expects, that's how they build the thing currently and that's the price > we have to pay to get to use that wm. Well, I guess I will stick with Xfce for a while then. After all, it takes something like two more seconds to load (I measured it some time ago, but forgot the results) than e17 on my Athlon XP 2600+, and that's bearable. Also, while I miss e17 power*, the loss of it is also bearable > I myself got tired of eternally fiddling with e and have resorted to using kde > until things settle down... KDE?! To go from e17 to KDE is a bit extreme; like "this micro-compact does not fulfill my transportation needs, so I will buy an SUV". Why don't you use Xfce? It is small, fast, lightweight, quite configurable (both by GUI and by text files**), compiles very quickly and has everything I want a DE to have. Have you not thought about it? And going off-topic: I mentioned that Gentoo's GCC and Xorg are too old. Do you know if there is any prediction (yes, I know predictions can fail; I am waiting for Debian Lenny since September) for their upgrade? Is there anywhere I can get information like this? * A quick example of e17 power is making my TV-viewing program borderless. Programs that are always on top should be borderless to save screen space. Imagine if, for example, the KDE panel had a border. ** That "programs with a GUI should also have a command-line interface, and configuration should be accessable via both a GUI tool and text files" should be on Software Engineering 101. -- Software is like sex: it is better when it is free - Linus Torvalds