Joerg Schilling ha scritto:
No, this is your assumption. Mine is the opposite - as I see it, the
question is very real and the author admitted that he found those URLs
using Google which implies he had nothing to do them.
Could you explain me why he did not read the information on the cdrtools
web page to get the information?
Read it (admittedly, read mostly the google cache because berlios.de
seems slow/unreachable now).
It just says "I choose CDDL because it's more free than GPL" and stuff
like that. This is better than the complete nothing we had before, but
it is still quite obscure.
I gave a (quick) look at the CDDL and on one side I feel sympathetic
with you (it seems the incompatibility claimed by Debian is extremly
technical and doesn't seem to pose peculiar problems) but on the other
side it seems CDDL and GPL are similar enough that I see no strong
reason to change license.
- Why is it in your opinion more free, in a few words?
- Why did you prefer to release it CDDL and see people go berserk (right
or wrong they are, it doesn't count here) instead of keeping it GPL and
let everyone live peacefully? In other words: why is CDDL *so important*
to you that you prefer to see bad forks of your software pop out instead
of having a compromise about licenses and let your software live happily?
What do you call "a modified CDDL license" and why do you believe
there is "a modified CDDL license"?
Answering the question with question? (obviously I can do that too :D)
It makes no sense to answer questions if the question contains a hint for a
missunderstanding.
Again, you don't understand the purpose of *human communication*.
Communication is exactly made to iron out misunderstandings.
Communicating with people that are already on your side/already
understand what you're going to say *makes no sense*.
First it would be interesting, second more effective for your cause and
third it would hopefully cease your current practice to hijack every
optical media related thread on this list and send spam that advertises
your product (cdrtools).
If you believe this, then we need to stop this thread immediately.
Every such thread on this list that was based on Bugs introduced by the people
who "created" wodim.
I mean no offense, but allow me to be blunt. This practice of yours
is not only extremely annoying, but it is also very unwise because it
backfires - instead of making people understand your problem, now you
have a list of annoyed Gentoo fans.
Do you like to tell me that Gentoo users are not interested to know why they
have problems with CD/DVD writing?
Do you like to tell me that nobody is interested in a simple fix?
Surely to let people aware of the cdrkit/cdrtools split and that
cdrtools can fix what's made by cdrkit is useful.
But it seems there is a tendency to make things degenerate into a
constant "either with me or against me!" threading, and your "conspiracy
theory" attitude does not help.
You tell on the webpage that Debian people started attack you before the
licence change. No link, for what I can see at a glance, is provided to
examples of these attacks (if I'm wrong, please correct me).
No reason is given for those attacks (again, if I'm wrong,etc.).
Now, it is possible that Debian has been possessed by $EVIL_DEITY and
that all those people are dedicating their life to annoy poor old Joerg.
Bear with me however if I assign to that quite tiny odds.
What I think is that those people were honestly concerned for some
(maybe stupid, maybe real) reason. Why should one randomly begin to
attack randomly a good developer releasing essential software? Why
should one go so long to fork such hard software, if this one does not
sincerely believe there is a reason to embark on such an adventure? You
may disagree with them, but thinking that they're doing all that just
because of a personaly conspiracy against you and cdrtools seems a bit a
delusion.
Here's what I'd write on your webpage if I was you:
"Q: Why is there a fork of cdrtools?
A: In 2004, a discussion arose with Debian developers around $ISSUE
(see *here*) and, later, around licensing terms (see *here*). Basically
there is a disagreement between us on the possibility to relicense [...]
Unfortunately, despite long and bitter discussion, no compromise had
been reached and they decided to release a supposedly "more free" fork,
called cdrkit. I personally disagree completely (CDDL is in my opinion
more free than GPL), but that's their choice.
Q: Is there a reason to use cdrtools instead of forks?
A: Yes. cdrkit is less updated (see cdrkit activity *here* vs cdrtools
activity *here*) and more buggy (see *here* for a comparison of cdrkit
bugs vs cdrtools bugs). So, I strongly advice to use the original
cdrtools instead of the forks. Unfortunately, many Linux distribution
choose to follow Debian reasoning on licences and distribute cdrkit
instead of cdrtools. A notable exception is Gentoo."
Practically the same stuff, but no conspiracy theory wording. It would
make you look like more of a reasonable person. What do you think?
m.
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