This One Time, at Band Camp, Boris Fersing <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said, On Tue, 
Feb 12, 2008 at 03:06:13PM -0500:
> On Feb 12, 2008 8:06 AM, Benjamen R. Meyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Wael Nasreddine wrote:
> > > On Mon, Feb 11, 2008 at 10:31:30PM -0500, "Benjamen R. Meyer" <[EMAIL 
> > > PROTECTED]> wrote:

> > >> As you have an Intel Core Duo, you should have the EMT64E version -
> > >> Intel's version of the AMD64 instruction set - thus x86-64 compatible.

> > >> Best place to check is Intel's website - here's what I found:

> > >> http://processorfinder.intel.com/details.aspx?sspec=sl9dv
> > >> http://developer.intel.com/design/mobile/core/duodocumentation.htm

> > >> With EMT64E, you will be able to compile for 64-bit mode using the
> > >> x86-64 builds. (You can only use Intel64 if you have the Itanium procs
> > >> if memory serves.)

> > >> However, unless you specifically install the x86-64/AMD64/64-bit
> > >> version, you will have a 32-bit x86 environment and kernel. You can
> > >> upgrade if you like...see other threads for that info.

> > >> HTH,

> > >> Ben

> > > Let's say this processor supports 64 bits, what whould I gain from
> > > migrating to x86_64 I mean would it be faster??? I've never
> > > owned/worked on a 64bit machine before so excuse my lack of knowledge
> > > :)

> > The primary advantage is larger memory space, and more native use of the
> > entire processor. I'm running it b/c I want to be - not b/c I need the
> > memory space, I'm not pushing 4GB for Physical RAM which is primarily
> > what it is about.

> > From my understanding, you won't gain much if any in speed. The
> > processor is still the same clock rate. 64-bit programs may (not sure,
> > someone verify?) be bigger as the opcodes are larger.

> > You can run any of the following configs:
> > 1) pure 32-bit
> > 2) pure 64-bit
> > 3) mixed 32-64 bit (multi-lib)

> HI again,

> the T2250 is a Core Duo and not a Core 2 Duo. It only supports 32 bits
> instructions.

> http://download.intel.com/design/processor/manuals/253665.pdf page 55

> regards,

> Boris.

Well here you go, thanks for clearing this up.

> > #3 will be the largest install as you have a lot of duplications since
> > you are hosting both a 32-bit and 64-bit environment. However, with #2
> > you might not get a lot of programs since there are quite a few that
> > have not been fully ported to 64-bit modes. You're running #1 now.

> > So not much is gained for now.

> > Ben


> > >> Wael Nasreddine wrote:
> > >>> Hello,

> > >>> It's been like 6 months I'm using the arch i686, but today I saw on this
> > >>> page[1] something that confused me, saying that I have an x86_64 arch I 
> > >>> have a
> > >>> Toshiba A135-S4427 with Intel dual core 1.73Ghz here's the output of
> > >>> /proc/cpuinfo

> > >>> ---- CUT
> > >>> processor       : 0
> > >>> vendor_id       : GenuineIntel
> > >>> cpu family      : 6
> > >>> model           : 14
> > >>> model name      : Genuine Intel(R) CPU           T2250  @ 1.73GHz
> > >>> stepping        : 8
> > >>> cpu MHz         : 800.000
> > >>> cache size      : 2048 KB
> > >>> physical id     : 0
> > >>> siblings        : 2
> > >>> core id         : 0
> > >>> cpu cores       : 2
> > >>> fdiv_bug        : no
> > >>> hlt_bug         : no
> > >>> f00f_bug        : no
> > >>> coma_bug        : no
> > >>> fpu             : yes
> > >>> fpu_exception   : yes
> > >>> cpuid level     : 10
> > >>> wp              : yes
> > >>> flags           : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge 
> > >>> mca cmov pat clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe 
> > >>> constant_tsc arch_perfmon bts pni monitor est tm2 xtpr
> > >>> bogomips        : 3460.63
> > >>> clflush size    : 64

> > >>> processor       : 1
> > >>> vendor_id       : GenuineIntel
> > >>> cpu family      : 6
> > >>> model           : 14
> > >>> model name      : Genuine Intel(R) CPU           T2250  @ 1.73GHz
> > >>> stepping        : 8
> > >>> cpu MHz         : 800.000
> > >>> cache size      : 2048 KB
> > >>> physical id     : 0
> > >>> siblings        : 2
> > >>> core id         : 1
> > >>> cpu cores       : 2
> > >>> fdiv_bug        : no
> > >>> hlt_bug         : no
> > >>> f00f_bug        : no
> > >>> coma_bug        : no
> > >>> fpu             : yes
> > >>> fpu_exception   : yes
> > >>> cpuid level     : 10
> > >>> wp              : yes
> > >>> flags           : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge 
> > >>> mca cmov pat clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe 
> > >>> constant_tsc arch_perfmon bts pni monitor est tm2 xtpr
> > >>> bogomips        : 3457.55
> > >>> clflush size    : 64
> > >>> ---- CUT

> > >>> So which arch do I really have??

> > >>> [1]: 
> > >>> http://docs.fedoraproject.org/install-guide/f8/en_US/sn-which-arch.html



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