On 12/2/06, Iain Buchanan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

My only concern is that if this process gets abused, a majority of
userreps could expel a minority and handpick their replacements to match
their own ideas... but then again, this isn't a money / power
controlling seat, so I counter myself with "would that really ever
happen"? and "so what if it did"?!

I see that on http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/userrel/userreps/index.xml
members are elected each year?  In which case I think my above concern
would be even less a reality, as ousted members could raise support for
the next election anyway.

However, perhaps you should have a short policy for election and
replacement of members, so that if you ever are questioned, at least you
can say "We did it by the book".

We as Userreps can only get rid of one of us if that person breaches
the social contact that can be read on our project site, And if we
would dismiss someone we would declare ourself quite thoroughly to the
community and to Userrel too. But as Bo mentioned in the post above,
it was Userrels decision. Antarus promised to post an announcement to
this ML today.

> Building up a team with people that hardly know each other is not an
> easy task. It took us quite some time to get to know each other and to
> find a way to work somehow efficiently together. We are different to
> any other project in Gentoo land because we did not pick our team by
> ourself, but let others, you the user community, choose our team.
> That's the way it has to be of course but it's a handicap,
> nevertheless.

But keeping variety is essential, especially for gentoo.  I doubt adding
one unknown member to the team will throw you all back to the days when
you didn't know each other.  That one new member will more quickly get
to know the group (and vice versa) than the time a whole new group would
take.  So perhaps the "next on the list" is a good idea?

You are right about that. But keeping in mind that this might not be
the only loss to our group in the next year (some of the userreps have
not been too active, ie.) and if we have to keep on picking up people
that haven't shown any interest in the project so far, it will slow us
down.

I think it would be fair to let us choose any substitute within the
term, because a year really passes by fast and all of us will be
judged on our work at the next election anyhow.

However, it seems like djay-il deserves a bit of recognition for his
efforts, and placing him in the position would do that.

So, I've said both yes and no!  In the end, I guess the decision is up
to the team what method they choose.

Thanks, for your opinion. :)
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