On Sat, Oct 28, 2006 at 07:18:04PM +0200, Harm Geerts wrote

> You don't insult the program, you insult the people behind it.

  No such thing.  I was stating that amarok is extreme overkill for
simple streaming audio playing.  It is aimed at a totally different
target market.  I'm not slagging amarok for that, all valid markets
have the same right to be served.  But it simply doesn't belong in
***THIS*** discussion.

> But even worse is that you based your *opinion* on a screenshot and
> the dependencies without even touching the program... and then tell
> the whole world it sucks.

  I didn't say it sucks, I said it was extreme overkill for replacing
xmms.  I believe the list of dependancies is a valid criterion to judge
a program by.  And I based my opinion on more than a screenshot.  I
actually did some RTFM.  ***ACCORDING TO AMAROK'S OWN WEBSITE*** at
http://amarok.kde.org/content/view/51/1/  amarok features include...

# Quick and simple drag and drop playlist creation
# Super eye-candy interface
# Multiple backends supported ( xine, helix and NMM)
# 10 band equalizer
# Automatic cover art download using Amazon services
# The unique and powerful Context Browser
# Automatic play-statistics generation (iRate style)
# Full lyrics download
# Read about your bands with embedded wikipedia browsing!
# Funky visualisations from libvisual and XMMS
# KDE integration
# Streaming MP3 streams, including Last.fm streams.
# Crossfading
# Podcasting Support
# Fully configurable translucent OSD for track changes
# K3B (CD-burning) integration
# Style your Context Browser with custom CSS styles
# Save space in your Context Browser with collapsable boxes
# Show the Context Browser without Amarok open through the Konqueror sidebar!
# Full support for Last.FM! Share your music taste with friends on the net
# Generate dynamic playlists based on last.fm suggestions
# Support for SQLite, MySQL and PostgreSQL databases ensuring fast collection 
access
# Support for your iPod, iRiver, PlaysForSure, NJB, and generic USB device with 
the all new media-browser
# Powerful scripting interface, allowing for easy extension of Amarok
# Complete DCOP access

  I consider "Super eye-candy interface" and "Funky visualisations" as
insults against a program.  The amarok website is ***BRAGGING*** about
them.  I am obviously not their target market.

> Amarok is not a replacement, amarok is an alternative, which is
> exactly what this thread is about.

  Amarok brings along a lot of excess baggage compared to xmms.  At some
point, it crosses the line of being too much.

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