On 8/4/06, fire-eyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Does anyone know what the heck is going on here? I mean this is TOTALLY
unacceptable. I know it is not gentoos fault, it's ATI putting out crap
drivers... But this is SO FRUSTRATING not having reliable 3D :(

Yeah, one of my main requirements for my new laptop was an Intel or
Nvidia GPU, because I got sick and tired of ATIs shit.  NVidia is
better, but still not perfect.  We can only hope that AMDs purchase of
ATI will result in some better cooperation with the opensource
community...eventually.

For now, the only other option you have for 3D support is to try out
the reverse-engineered r300 driver.  If you have a recent enough
kernel, you can turn on "Device Drivers->Character Devices->Direct
Rendering Manager" and "ATI Radeon".  Then using the radeon driver and
standard DRI setup, you might get hardware 3D acceleration.

I have never used it, so I can't say how well the reverse-engineered
driver works.  I do know it is still very much a work in progress
though, the more recent the kernel, the better.  You might also have a
look at the table in /usr/src/linux/drivers/char/drm/drm_pciids.h and
compare to your vendor and device id (from lspci -n output), to see if
your chip is supported by the in-kernel driver before going through
the trouble.

What can I do? I have struggled in the past very hard with getting DRI to work
in xorgs radeon driver, but it takes cvs versions of this and overlays of

Most of that should now be resolved with recent kernels and x.org versions....

that and blah blah blah... A real pain.... I should be able to get 3D going
here, preferrably without ATI's drivers, i mean this card has been out for a
while.... What do I do? So frustrating......

The problem is that ATI doesn't release programming specs either.  So
it is not simply a matter of time before something works...that only
applies if the company will at least work with the interested devs.
ATI has demonstrated very little interest in providing decent linux
support.  If you have a choice, don't buy them.  Again, we can only
hope that the purchase by AMD goes through and changes the culture,
but don't hold your breath.

-Richard
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