Dale schreef:

> Well, thanks for reading anyway.  I learned this the hard way.  I got
>  lonesome at times.  ;)  I was hoping Holly would share her genius. 
> LOL
> 

Thanks for the compliment, but no genius here; I haven't had a modem
physically installed in my box since I moved here 5.5 years ago. Before
I moved, I was not a Linux user. Since I moved I've connected
via LAN, so when I became a Linux user, the network always Just Worked
(fortunately), so I still had no experience with using a modem under
Linux, except for my bf's brief attempt at running Mandrake, which
failed specifically because we didn't know how to get his ISA (!!!)
modem to work and so neither of us had a connection. I would probably be
able to at least start to troubleshoot that now (though later
information indicates that the issue was likely the modem itself), but
of course he's since changed his mobo, so even if he still used a modem,
it would be much more likely to be properly detected and initialized.

While we still used a modem, it was in my bf's Win2K box, when we got
ADSL, the software router was also on his box, and now we have a
modem/router to which both our boxes are connected, so if anyone is the
network guru in this house it's my bf, not me (since he was responsible
for the box conducting major network ops for most of the time there was
a network to be concerned with)-- but he's a Win network guru (insofar
as he's a network guru at all, which I'm not convinced of ;-) , but he
certainly knows more than me about the issue-- though that's not saying
all that much, as I know just about squat about it). And I generally
avoid "sharing my (total lack of) genius" on matters that I have no
experience in, and know that I know nothing about (though I've got a lot
of mails from this list marked 'Important' because people who *do* know
something about various matters that I'm ignorant in have posted
informative stuff, so I am learning).

The long and the short of it is that almost everything I know I've
learned "the hard way" myself over 13 years of assembling computers when
a friend sold me-- a Mac user with an all-in-one,
black-and-white-display Mac Plus)-- a 286 (with full-height HDDs and an
amber monochrome display) which I had to reassemble so that it would run
Windows 3.11 and AOL (this was before Win95, even, but 486 was the
current CPU level). And what I've found about learning that way is that
you don't forget it. The down side is of course that you don't know
everything-- but what you do know, you *know*.  And firm confidence in
your own knowledge is a good thing. You also have a fair idea of the
limits of your own knowlege, if it's based on knowing what you had to
wrestle into shape with your own hands.

So do not weep. You've written a mail that I will mark as 'Important',
and if I need to help a new Linux user that is having problems with
their modem, I now know that maybe I should ask them to check that
setting/feature. So the results of your toil can help me (and others)
help yet others we may encounter.

Good for you.

Holly
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