On Wed, 16 Nov 2005 14:30:28 -0600 kashani wrote: > Nick Rout wrote: > > I read your message and was surprised at this. Last time I read the > > handbooks the Handbook gave stage 1/2/3 options and the 2005.1 > > handbook stuck to stage 3. (Talking x86 here, I have never done an > > instal on other architectures). > > > > Now, like you, I read this in the Handbook: > > > > "Make sure you download a stage3 tarball - installations using a > > stage1 or stage2 tarball are not supported anymore." > > > > WTF? When did this happen? > > > > About a week or two ago and was heavily discussed on gentoo-doc IIRC. > Here's a rough summary. > > stage1 is the cause of a number of circular dependency issues, it takes > forever, the engineering and release team spends too much time on it, > and the average Gentoo users get no benefit from doing a stage1 over a > stage3. In order to get any benefit from stage1 you must edit the boot > strap scripts in some way. Editting the boot strap scripts is not > documented and not something general users should be mucking around in > so we're going to drop everything, but stage3 on the CD. > > Or at least that was my interpretation. I stopped paying attention > around this point, but there was talk of keeping a stage1 for devs or > people who need it... though I don't think exactly what or where was > ever fully hashed out. > > kashani
Thanks for the info. I have only used stage 1 once, and it was for an i586 machine (FYI an epia eden (http://gentoo-wiki.com/Safe_Cflags#Eden_C3.2FEzra_.28Via_EPIA.29) This is because there weren't stage 3's available for i586, so I had to compile the lot from stage 1 (at least as i read the instructions at that point). Frankly I think that a stage 3 is ok 99% of the time, I am just surprised to see gentoo limiting choices, even for the other 1%. I am also surprised that it wasn't given wider publicity in the lead up to the change - this sort of thing should be referred to this list IMHO. This list is high enough volume without having to sub to gentoo-doc as well to pick up important changes. > -- > gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Nick Rout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
