Michael wrote:
> On Tuesday, 16 September 2025 06:05:41 British Summer Time Dale wrote:
>> Alexis wrote:
>>> Dale <[email protected]> writes:
>>>> While Wayland is installed here, I don't actively use it.  I'm sure it
>>>> is running since things are switching in that direction tho.
>>> Just to note, since this seems to be based on a common misunderstanding:
>>>
>>> Wayland is a protocol - and more loosely, a collection of protocols[a]
>>> - not a server. There is no 'Wayland server' analogous to an X server.
>>> One doesn't start 'Wayland' and then start a WM/DE; one starts a
>>> compositor, which can be thought of as a combination of a server and a
>>> WM/DE. So it's possible to have Wayland libraries on one's system that
>>> aren't used / 'running' until one actively starts up a Wayland
>>> compositor. Their mere presence doesn't indicate that there must be a
>>> Wayland session running, or that a Wayland session is required to be
>>> running.
>>>
>>>
>>> Alexis.
>>>
>>> [a] Cf. the Wayland Explorer, https://wayland.app/protocols/
>> That is true.  My point was, on the login screen, I don't select
>> Wayland.  I use the old X thing, whatever it is called nowadays.  That
>> said, I wouldn't be surprised if something Wayland was in use by some
>> software.  I just checked and it shows no processes with wayland in it
>> is running but it could be that it just isn't right now.  I know some
>> packages on here have the wayland USE flag set.  I think some can't
>> really be disabled due to it being needed by other packages. 
>>
>> I do recall a good while back that somehow Wayland was selected on the
>> login screen.  I noticed it acting weird and logged back out.  I then
>> noticed it had Wayland selected somehow.  I switched back and it worked
>> like I expected.  It was a while ago. 
>>
>> By the way, the file still hasn't popped back up, yet.  O_o 
>>
>> Dale
>>
>> :-)  :-) 
> Alt+Ctrl+F2 or F7 will show you what you started sddm with.  Also in a 
> terminal you can check this output:
>
> ~ $ echo $XDG_SESSION_TYPE
> wayland
>
> I'm running a wayland compositor here.  If you see "x11", this means you are 
> running an xserver.
>
> In addition, top and ps axf will show what process is providing your desktop 
> GUI.
>
> If you are on wayland the xorg-session.log file will be empty, or absent, 
> while the wayland-session.log file will be getting fat.  Perhaps just as xorg-
> session.log file used to.  :-)


I just did a ps aux | grep wayland.  It didn't return any matches.  I
also couldn't remember if it was X11, Xorg or something else.  I think
there was a change a few years ago, maybe. 

Either way, I don't select Wayland but some packages are installed that
have the USE flag on which means they may use Wayland.  How or which
ones, I dunno.  LOL 

So far, the file still hasn't popped back up.  I suspect it will when I
log out and back in this coming weekend after updates.  If so, I may
beat it with the rm hammer again.  ;-) 

Dale

:-)  :-) 

P. S.  Gave away almost 4 gallons of okra yesterday. 

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