Hi Holly, On Sat, 2005-11-12 at 15:16 +0100, Holly Bostick wrote: > Rumen Yotov schreef: > > Hi, Recently (last two days) when running:"emerge -DNu world -ptv" > > receive the following: ... #emerge -DNu world -ptv > > > > These are the packages that I would merge, in reverse order: > > > > Calculating world dependencies ...done! [ebuild R ] > > mail-filter/maildrop-2.0.1 +berkdb -debug +fam* -gdbm -ldap -mysql > > -postgres 0 kB [ebuild R ] net-mail/courier-imap-4.0.1 +berkdb > > -debug +fam* -gdbm +ipv6 +nls (-selinux) 0 kB > > > > Total size of downloads: 0 kB ... In first look nothing strange, only > > i don't have/use "fam" (use 'gamin' instead). More info,no fam in > > /etc/make.conf: "grep fam /etc/make.conf" > nothing. So must be some > > issue with "virtuals". In "maildrop-2.0.1.ebuild" there is the > > following: ... Now don't need to post this as a question, thing are > > clear. Gamin also provides "virtual/fam" although it's gamin not fam. > > Just a confusion with "fam" USE-flag. Post this for info only. > > Thanks. It turns out this is confusion only in my head ;-) > > This happened to me yesterday, except with a twist. For a change, I did > an emerge -uaDNtv world instead of without a --newuse like normal, and I > got a block, because of emelfm2: > > Calculating dependencies ...done! > [ebuild R ] app-misc/emelfm2-0.1.2 +fam* -gamin +nls -utf8only 0 kB > [1] > You are using the one in your overlay here. i have this: ... #ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="~x86" emerge emelfm2 -pv
These are the packages that I would merge, in order: Calculating dependencies ...done! [ebuild N ] app-misc/emelfm2-0.0.9-r1 +nls 456 kB Total size of downloads: 456 kB ... > Total size of downloads: 0 kB > Portage overlays: > [1] /usr/local/portage > > Now, since I use gamin, fam wanted to install, and was (naturally) > blocked by gamin. Fortunately, emelfm2 has a 'gamin' USE flag, so I just > disabled fam and enabled gamin to clear the block. > > Comparing this to your situation, it looks like 'fam' is a new USE flag, > enabled by default (since fam is installed by default). I don't really > have much of a problem with that-- except I misss the corresponding > 'gamin' USE flag for the programs you are upgrading. > > However, I also assume that these programs may not be able to use gamin, > or have not been updated to use a virtual/fam rather than fam itself. > Think it's better they use "virtual/fam" or some sort of virtual/a-name-here. Gamin ebuild already provides "virtual/fam". > Either way, I would be clued that these programs were out of date in > some respect, and would start checking their current status on the web > page: are they currently maintained? are there plans to enable gamin > support? If not, then I would check Bugzilla to see if a bug had been > filed to allow for virtual/fam instead of fam directly. If not, I would > copy the ebuilds to my overlay and modify them to take a virtual/fam, > and install those. They already DEPEND on virtual/fam. It's just a matter of naming IMO, the name "fam" (File Alternating Monitor IIRC) merely coincides with fam in "virtual/fam", not like "virtual/mda" which is clearer. > > If they worked that way, I would submit the modified ebuilds to b.g.o. > > My 2 eurocents (which we don't even have anymore), > Holly Thanks.Rumen
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