On 2/11/25 10:22 AM, Peter Humphrey wrote:
> Greetings,
> 
> I was delighted to see Gentoo's venture into prebuilt packages, having two 
> small machines here. However, experience has rubbed some of the shine off.
> 
> Any time I update the system, if there's no package with the right USE flags, 
> or even no package at all, I've built from source in the traditional way. 
> Later, on running 'eclean-pkg --deep --package-names', I get a load of 
> invalid-package warnings. I just assumed that was harmless.
> 
> More serious, I'm sure, is the mess I'm getting into with 'emerge -k' and/or 
> 'emerge -K'. It became so bad that I tried reinstalling from scratch today. I 
> couldn't make it work at all - at one stage I was told to emerge @preserved-
> rebuild, whereupon it insisted on installing the nouveau drivers. 
> Preposterous.
> 
> Can portage not operate a mixed prebuilt and home-grown system?



I don't understand what you're trying to say at all.

emerge --getbinpkg is *already* a mixed prebuilt and home-grown system.
And emerge --getbinpkgonly is a modification to getbinpkg that says you
don't want a mixed system, you want exclusively prebuilt. Using the
*only variant is a personal choice you aren't obligated to make.

You haven't actually provided details about why you think there's a
problem though. You have said:

- if there are no packages available for your configuration, you have
  "built from source in the traditional way", which emerge already does
  *automatically* unless you explicitly tell it not to. Should I be
  concluding from here that you first tried the *only variant, then when
  that failed you disabled fetching binary packages altogether in a fit
  of frustration?

- you installed Gentoo from scratch because "it" became so bad. What is
  "it"? I am finding it hard to imagine a situation where there could be
  an "it", let alone deduce the details of what "it" constitutes.

- who told you to emerge @preserved-rebuild, what was it in relation to,
  what was the dependency graph that claimed it was installing nouveau?

- "I get a load of invalid-package warnings. I just assumed that was
  harmless". Failure to delete a useless unneeded file is most likely
  harmless, yes. More details would require you saying more here.


-- 
Eli Schwartz

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