Michael wrote: > On Thursday 26 September 2024 22:11:20 BST Dale wrote: > >> root@Gentoo-1 / # telnet smtp.gmail.com 587 >> Trying 142.251.116.108... >> Trying 2607:f8b0:4023:1000::6c... >> telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Network is unreachable >> root@Gentoo-1 / # >> >> >> Can't connect. Well, that explains a lot. It can't reach anything to >> log into. It looks like it is trying both IPv4 and v6. So, I used >> ping. It works there. > STOP RIGHT THERE! > > You may not have a mail application configuration problem after all (ssmtp/ > msmtp), but you definitely have a network/server connectivity problem. You > need to sort out the network connection first, before you look at your smtp > client configuration. >
That's my thinking but everything else works fine. Seamonkey email works just fine. >> root@Gentoo-1 / # ping smtp.gmail.com >> PING smtp.gmail.com (142.250.115.108) 56(84) bytes of data. >> 64 bytes from rq-in-f108.1e100.net (142.250.115.108): icmp_seq=1 ttl=53 >> time=32.1 ms >> 64 bytes from rq-in-f108.1e100.net (142.250.115.108): icmp_seq=2 ttl=53 >> time=45.0 ms >> 64 bytes from rq-in-f108.1e100.net (142.250.115.108): icmp_seq=3 ttl=53 >> time=39.3 ms >> ^C >> --- smtp.gmail.com ping statistics --- >> 3 packets transmitted, 3 received, 0% packet loss, time 1998ms >> rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 32.062/38.776/45.017/5.299 ms >> root@Gentoo-1 / # ping 142.251.116.108 >> PING 142.251.116.108 (142.251.116.108) 56(84) bytes of data. >> 64 bytes from 142.251.116.108: icmp_seq=1 ttl=53 time=30.4 ms >> 64 bytes from 142.251.116.108: icmp_seq=2 ttl=53 time=56.0 ms >> 64 bytes from 142.251.116.108: icmp_seq=3 ttl=53 time=30.6 ms >> ^C >> --- 142.251.116.108 ping statistics --- >> 3 packets transmitted, 3 received, 0% packet loss, time 2000ms >> rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 30.351/38.988/56.049/12.063 ms >> root@Gentoo-1 / # > So you can access the server, but not connect to the port. > > Can you connect to ports 25, or 465? > > Can you connect to 'smtp-relay.gmail.com' instead? > > If you cannot see an open port, then either your network is misconfigured, or > you've annoyed Google enough to block your access to their smtp service. > > >> What silly boo boo did I make this time???? >> >>>> I am connected through a VPN but Seamonkey works fine. I can check and >>>> send email there, > Ah! I have found Google logs your IP address and when this changes they may > choose to block your connection to their service. Often it sends you a > message in your backup email address/phone asking you to confirm if the > device > and new IP address you are trying to connect from is you and yours. > > Throwing a VPN in the works may trigger the above security (re)action, when > your client is using an 'App Password' token, as opposed to the full OAUTH2 > exchange. > I have had it send a thing I have to use on my phone. I don't recall giving google my phone number tho. I rarely give my phone number to any website. Heck, except for a couple people, I don't ever answer the phone anyway. My default ring tone is silent. Only half a dozen people have a ring tone. >> That is true but why buy one if you can't run it? LOL This is yet >> another reason I want to switch from Gmail. They nothing but nosy >> anyway. I think it is common knowledge that they scan all emails and >> use the info for various things, including ads, which I block by the way. > Google's modus operandi is arguably predicated on recording your data, your > location, your movements, your purchases, your contacts, your written/spoken > word, your interests, your thoughts, etc. Selling advertisements is a > monetisation mechanism to facilitate the high cost of their operation. They > are not unique in this endeavor, other Big-Tech quasi-monopolies are > performing the same role. The offer of 'free' internet services is the > honeypot used to attract footfall. Yep. Looking at that Proton email thing. It doesn't cost to much for that basic thing above free. I just renewed my Surfshark so want to spread these bills a little apart. I'm mostly just wanting something that works like gmail but doesn't snoop. I got encryption set up, I think anyway. I haven't used it since transferring to new rig. I'm wondering if we should just start from scratch. Either I missed something simple or something is missing somewhere. I'm also wondering of that /var/spool method might be better. Dale :-) :-)