Michael wrote:
> On Thursday 26 September 2024 08:28:47 BST Dale wrote:
>> ssmtp stopped working with a conventional password when Google
>> introduced 2- 
> Step-Verification for their GMail account.  Consequently, to be able to 
> continue using ssmtp you need to set up an 'App Password' and use the 16-
> character password generated by Google to login:
>
>  https://support.google.com/mail/answer/185833
>
> It used to be the case you could set up an 'App Password' without having to 
> provide them with your phone number and other 'none-of-their-business' 
> personal information, but for some years now they have been asking for more 
> information to allow you to complete setting up 'App Password' for your 
> Google 
> account(s) and device(s).
>

I also tried the 16 character password method too.  It still didn't work. 

>>> I would never use a free Email service to send -- its worth exactly
>>> what you pay for!
> When the service is offered as being supposedly 'free', you, by providing 
> your 
> data, is the product.
>
>
>> Well, I been wanting to switch but can't find one I know I will like
>> long term.  I don't want to switch then not like it and have to switch
>> again.  Then maybe repeat that a few times.  I was thinking about
>> switching to startmail but they started this captcha stuff which makes
>> their website unusable for me.  Every time I clicked on something,
>> captcha.  Click on something else, captcha.  I stopped using startpage
>> completely after reaching out to them and basically, getting little to
>> no real help.  Shame really.  Seemed like a good option. 
> Mass-market services cannot afford providing individual user support.  At 
> best 
> they may provide some FAQs.  Some may host a forum of sorts for users to 
> offer 
> support to other users.  Oh, ... hold on!  LOL!
>
>
>> If you know a email service that isn't to expensive but is secure, not
>> secure enough to block me from doing things I need to do tho, I'm open
>> to ideas.  I'd like something that is outside the USA if possible.  You
>> know, one of those countries that tells folks to go pound sand when they
>> want to snoop around.  ;-)
> The snooping mostly takes place across borders.  Your government's 3-letter 
> agencies will ask whichever other hosting country's agencies to share with 
> them any information they have about you and reciprocate accordingly.  There 
> is no privacy on the Internet.
>
> That said, if you're interested in limiting opportunistic snooping, something 
> like this may help:
>
> https://proton.me/mail


I'll have to check into that more.  I'm not sure I could send my system
emails through that tho.  It sounds like it requires encryption end to
end.  I think. 

Dale

:-)  :-) 

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