On Mon, May 20, 2024 at 12:09 PM Dale <rdalek1...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> First, I thought cards were backward compatible?  You could stick a 3.0
> into a 2.0 slot and it would just run as a 2.0 and vice versa.  I know
> the mobo is 2.0.  It does recognize the drive but seems to nuke the
> ethernet somehow.  I looked, there is no switches on the card.  I don't
> see a way to adjust how it works or anything.
>
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You've gotten a number of good answers so I won't duplicate any
of that, but as someone who worked designing PCI and PCI Express
hardware I make a couple of observations:

1) A hardware spec can be backward compatible but if BIOS
doesn't, or didn't at the time, do everything correctly, then a
PCI Express chip mounted on an adapter card and misprogrammed
by BIOS can cause a lot of problems.

2) To me, this problem smells of the sort of thing we used to
see when BIOS (or potentially the OS) didn't handle PCI
Bridges correctly.

The way a lot of this Wide PCI Express to multiple slow
interfaces work is by embedding a PCI Express Bridge
inside the chip and then branching out to independant
PCI Express (or just PCI) narrow devices inside the chip
and behind the bridge.

You can see a representation of this stuff using the
commands:

lspci
lspci -t -v (or -vvv)

The numbers you see are the PCI device number BIOS
has given each device. If a device number has a dot
something value then these are subdevices inside the
chip. When you see the depth getting large and you
start to see sub-busses you are actually getting there
through a bridge.

The problem is a lot of old BIOS's didn't handle bridges
correctly, and a lot of bridges didn't work correctly, and
the PCI Bridge specs were changing along the way.

If you look at the tree structure with the card out and card
in the machine then you may find out that there is a
problem, such as the network controller not showing up.

As the network controller is likely in the motherboard
chipset it is possible that a PCI Express network adapter
will do better, but that's sort of hunt and peck.

Best wishes, good luck and happy hunting,
Mark

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