On 05/20/20 23:24, Rich Freeman wrote:
First, stop top-posting, and fix your quoting.  This is a mess to try
to reply to, and your update woes are bad enough to stare at...

sorry, I've just posted as I've thought it was most meaningful.  I'm not
sure what you mean by quoting ... I'm using thunderbird ... can you
recommend another mail agent?


On Wed, May 20, 2020 at 4:51 PM n952162 <n952...@web.de> wrote:

Well, you're talking about openssl here.  I'm trying to go a step at a time and 
looking at the first conflict in that first log file: zlib.
You'll have to give me the full command line and output of that if you
want me to comment.

This seems to be a bit of a trend in your emails.  You almost always
ask a question without including the command line and output.  When
you do include output you often trim it, which makes it much harder to
tell what is going on.

In the posting that you orignally responded to, at 21:06 (my time), I'd
included this and attached the full log:

emerge -vu dev-qt/qtgui dev-qt/qtx11extras dev-qt/qtopengl
dev-qt/qtprintsupport dev-qt/qtwidgets dev-qt/qtxml
dev-qt/linguist-tools dev-qt/qtnetwork dev-qt/qtsvg dev-qt/qtcore

Again, I think attaching the log is less confusing than just dumping it
into the stream, but maybe that's wrong.




Isn't the source and build instructions to everything on my system here, too?
I mean, if it had to rebuild all the users of zlib, but wasn't being requested 
to update them.
No.  The build instructions are in the repository.  When you updated
it, you discarded the ebuilds for any no-longer-supported package
versions.

Something that might also help is running:
emerge -auDv --changed-use --keep-going --with-bdeps=y --changed-deps
--backtrack=100 @system


Attached ...

1.  You should update all the files in /etc and then run that command again.
2.  Did portage not actually let you proceed with the update?  As far
as I can tell none of those errors are fatal.

Assuming that nothing new comes up after you update all your config
files in /etc I would proceed with this update.  It certainly won't
fix all your problems (which is why you have a mountain of messages
after the list of packages that will be updated), but it will get a
ton of system packages and your toolchain up-to-date, and will
probably make it considerably easier to sort through the rest of the
updates.

The @system set is largely independent of anything else, so getting it
updated makes everything else easier.


Okay, that's what I'll do (tomorrow).




Actually, I installed this system just a month or two ago, but I used
a CD I burned of the minimal-install-disk that is perhaps a year
old.  I wanted to have all my systems have the same basis, until I
proficient enough to do a stage-1 installation ... I guess this is the
way I'm learning how to get there  :-(
Two things:

First, that seems a bit odd, since if you did an emerge --sync before
doing the install you should have been installing new packages
regardless of what was on the install disk, especially if you
downloaded a current stage3.  I guess if you used an old stage3 and
didn't update anything then you'd be in that state, but you wouldn't
have anything not in @system that way.

Second, there is no benefit to doing a stage1 install really except in
some unusual bootstrapping situations like building install media.
You get an identical system if you do a stage1 install, or if you do a
stage3 install and at the end do an emerge -e @world.  The difference
is that you can actually use your system while the latter rebuilds, vs
a stage1 where it takes ages before you can just about anything with
it.


The beauty of gentoo is that it's source.  But that's just a fantasy if
I use the stage3 tarball.
I think.


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