Daniel Frey wrote:
> On 5/10/20 1:02 AM, Dale wrote:
>> Hi Michael,
>>
>> I think it is too.  Your link shows about what the link I was looking
>> at does.
>>
>> I did research the SATA and SAS connector issue again.  Seagate has a
>> picture of both for comparison and the drive I was looking at is a
>> SAS drive.  When I did more research, it seems you can connect a SATA
>> drive to SAS but not a SAS drive to SATA, unless that has changed
>> since the site I found posted about it.  Either way, while it does
>> seem to be PMR, I don't want to chance it not working since it is a
>> SAS drive.  I need to weed out SAS type drives unless I want to buy a
>> SAS drive controller card as well, to be certain it will work.  For
>> those curious, this is a link that shows a picture.  One has to look
>> closely because at a glance, they look a LOT alike.
>>
>> https://www.seagate.com/support/kb/connecting-sata-drive-to-sas-controller-006170en/
>>
>>
>>
>> SATA drives may be plugged into SAS controllers.
>>
>> SAS drives cannot be plugged into SATA controllers.
>>
>>
>> Back to digging and waiting for a good deal.
>>
>> Thanks much for the help.  :-D
>
> That drive is a SAS drive and they use a generic photo of a hard drive
> - don't rely on those. That line of hard drives offer both SATA and
> SAS drives dependent on model.
>
> They aren't compatible with SATA controllers.
>
> And yes, SATA drives can be used on a SAS controller - I've been
> running that configuration on my file server for about 12 years.
>
> Dan
>
>


The drive I found on ebay has a picture of the actual drive.  When I
found the difference, the link I posted, then I could see the drive is a
SAS.  The link I found explained that a SAS drive will not work with a
SATA port like I have.  It can work the other way around tho like you
have.  So, if I had a SAS controller, I could use SATA drives or SAS and
it work.  However, I have SATA controllers and can not hook up that SAS
drive.  They make a adapter and I found those on sale but I'm not
willing to spend $150 to see if it works.  It might, it might not. 
Either way, I get the difference between SATA and SAS now.  Different
connector but seems to be a much more durable drive. 

I thought I read a year or so ago the connectors was different but I
wasn't sure.  I thought maybe I misunderstood something or was just
wrong.  Turns out, it is different.  The one thing I wasn't sure at all
on, PMR or SMR.  It appeared to be PMR but I couldn't confirm it with
certainty.  It seems drive makers are being pretty deceptive on what
drives use. 

I did find a WD Red 8TB drive.  It costs a good bit more.  It's a good
deal but still costs more.  I'm going to keep looking.  Eventually I'll
either spend the money on the drive or find a really good deal.  My home
directory is at 69% so I got some time left.  Of course, my collection
is still growing. o_O

Thanks for the extra info. 

Dale

:-)  :-) 

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