On Tuesday, 28 April 2020 15:21:09 BST Mark Knecht wrote: > On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 6:51 AM Peter Humphrey <pe...@prh.myzen.co.uk>
--->8 > OK, so card 0 is using snd_hda_intel. Card 0 is most likely the default > location that sound is going. Blacklisting it will help. That said you have > 2 USB devices so we need to be careful about extra confusion there. For > simplicity you might just unplug the webcam (if you can - if this is a > built-in in a laptop then I understand you have limitations.) --->8 > > Nope. No pulseaudio. > > What is the output of pulseaudio at the command line? Not found. > Or maybe just no pluseaudio tools, or whatever it's called on Gentoo > assuming it's a separate package. I'm no longer running Gentoo (I just find > this list the best place to get real info) A quick google for pavucontrol > suggests you can emerge media-sound/pavucontrol to get it. Do I need it? I have sound without it. To install it I'd have to set the pulseaudio USE flag; then emerge -uaDvN @world would reinstall 19 packages and install 10 new ones. > Use KDE systemsettings, search for sound, choose 'Multimedia', Under 'Audio > Volume' what do you see? What device is set as default? (This part of > systemsettings is very similar to pavucontrol but it doesn't give you the > VU meters which are nicely visible to see what apps are generating audio. KDE system settings have changed since your day, Mark; there's now no reference to the hardware at all under Multimedia; only CDDB. There's no useful USE flag on it. --->8 > > Third, I haven't any alsa packages installed, except for alsamixer which I > > installed to help with this problem (it didn't). There's no starting or > > stopping alsa; KDE seems to have what it needs without alsa specifically. > > That's why I had no asound.conf; it's also why I rebooted instead of doing > > something less heavy handed. Then again, why do I need an asound.conf? > > No. The fact that you can cat "/proc/asound" asound being "Alsa Sound" says > Alsa is running. Alsa talks to your sound card hardware and provides a > "single application" interface to the sound cards. Pulseaudio provides a > mixer so that multiple apps can all send sound to your hardware. To clarify: prh@peak ~ $ eix -Ic alsa [I] media-libs/alsa-lib (1.2.2{tbz2}@22/04/20): Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Library prh@peak ~ $ eix -Ic audio [I] media-libs/audiofile (0.3.6-r3(0/1){tbz2}@11/04/20): An elegant API for accessing audio files I can already send sound from several apps at once to the hardware - at least, I could with the built-in Intel hardware. Time will tell how the USB device fares. I think KDE must use media-libs/alsa-lib directly. It must be doing a lot of work under the bonnet. > I personally don't think you need asound.conf until you prove that you have > a need to do some sort of non-standard configuration. That _might_ be > defining a different default card but KDE can do that for you in system > settings so my recommendation is no asound.conf for now. Use KDE as it's > intended and (over the long run) I think it's more maintainable. However, > you are completely free to use your system any way you want. Thanks for your help. -- Regards, Peter.