On 8/4/19 12:03 PM, Mick wrote:
I don't know more about this, but it seems we are being dragged towards
a systemd inspired future, whether the majority of the gentoo community
of users want it or not.
How is the /usr merger /directly/ related to systemd?
In my view system binaries should not be thrown in the same pot as user
binaries and keeping the two separate makes good sense for those of us
who do not spin up 200 cloned VMs a second on a RHL corporate farm.
What are you using to differentiate system binaries and user binaries?
Are you using the /usr directory? Or the bin vs sbin directories?
Please elaborate on your working understanding. I ask because I want
correctly understand you and speak to what you're talking about.
Especially considering that there will still be the bin vs sbin directories.
I'm not arguing against systemd, or merging all directories under an
equivalent of a $WINDOWS/ path, but it seems to me a gentoo system
architecture should retain the freedom of choice and flexibility it
has been famous for.
I agree that the user choice is *EXTREMELY* *IMPORTANT*!
Retrograde steps like being forced to use an initramfs just for
retaining a separate /usr partition, should not be the way gentoo
evolves.
Agreed.
I am curious why /you/ want (the ability to have) a separate /usr file
system. I know that I want to retain the ability. That being said,
I've not needed it in quite a while.
I am also using a bit of a hack that I think could be (re)used to allow
/usr being a separate file system without /requiring/ an initramfs /
initrd. (I'll reply in another email with details to avoid polluting
this thread.)
Setting up a USE flag to accommodate such changes would be more
agreeable for many gentoo users, rather than changing the default
set up.
Please forgive my ignorance. What was the default before 'split-user'
was made global? I assume that 'split-user' wasn't a default. So, by
my limited understanding, 1) it was / still is a USE flag and 2) has
chosen the more historically compatible as the new default.
NOTE: Please do not start a flamewar, I'm just expressing my opinion
as a long term gentoo user who prefers to use gentoo for personal
computing, instead of other binary systemd based distros.
I'm not taking this as a flame. I'm taking it as an honest and open
discussion to learn what others are doing / thinking.
For the record, I'm largely okay with /bin being a sym-link to /usr/bin.
However I do want /sbin to remain local to the root file system. I've
supported multiple installs where /usr was a separate file system and
needed the minimal system (not an initramfs nor an initrd) to fix things
at times. I'm also quite happy without an initramfs / initrd.
--
Grant. . . .
unix || die
