On Saturday 22 October 2005 14:26, Eddie Mihalow Jr wrote:
> Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote:
> > On Saturday 22 October 2005 02:37, Rafael Fernández López wrote:
> >>Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote:
> >>>On Friday 21 October 2005 21:11, Allan Spagnol Comar wrote:
> >>>>My hole linux box has crashed !!!!
> >>>>I made a system update yesterday with emerge -Du world....
> >>>>
> >>>>it update my apache, mantis, nagios, bind, mysql..... today my hole
> >>>>system is against me....
> >>>>I think in reinstall the full system .... has any one got a better
> >>>>idea, my backups are unavailable now ....
> >>>
> >>>what do you mean 'crashed'?
> >>>
> >>>does revdep-rebuilt still works?
> >>>
> >>>but at least now you know why you should not use --deep.
> >>
> >>Deep is almost imprescindible when upgrading. You have to upgrade
> >>dependencies too, or maybe your new and fresh app is built onto old
> >>libraries that can make it crash, or just going slower.
> >
> > --deep is totally superflous.
> > When something needs the latest libs, it will pull them in anyway.
> > So there is no need to install the latest version. Nobody said, that the
> > latest are always the fastest too.
> >
> > When nothing needs the latest stuff, why change the dependency of maybe
> > douzends of apps, only to have the latest version?
> >
> > A lot of times, this breaks stuff. Or does thinks make slower. Or make
> > some apps crashy&instabil.
> > Some apps even need a very small spectrum of versions - any change in the
> > libs, and boom, you have a memory-leaking crashy hog. Or at least
> > something that does not work like it should (like xine or mplayer, when
> > you update ffmpeg and transcode behind their backs).
> >
> > --deep does not solve problems, it generates them.
>
> Sorry, but I don't agree with this. I use -deep every day and have yet
> to have any of
> these so-called problems Mr. Volker is espousing. I have mplayer and
> xine and they both work fine.
> I wonder how you came to this conclusion-was it direct experience, or
> just banal thinking?
> Regards,

direct experience.
I have seen xine and mplayer break multiple times or KDE loosing its themes, 
because of qt updates or wesnoth. And that are the ones I remember without to 
much brain work.
That is why I am healed from --deep updates

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