Adam Carter wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 11, 2018 at 7:49 PM Neil Bothwick <n...@digimed.co.uk
> <mailto:n...@digimed.co.uk>> wrote:
>
>     > So tell us what is your perfect country for hardware manufacturing?
>
>     There isn't one as you can never be sure. You are presenting hope, and
>     maybe likelihood, as certainty when this does not exist.
>
>
> Datapoint - looks like Bloomberg is starting to walk back its complete
> support of the original implant story.
> https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-12-11/super-micro-says-third-party-test-found-no-malicious-hardware
>
> Also they have assigned another reporter that was not involved in the
> original story, to attempt to verify the claims of the original story...
>
> Others have made the point that the Amazon and Apple denials left them
> no wriggle room in the event that implants are found and shareholders
> launch a class action, and that this indicates a genuine belief that
> there are no backdoors.
>
> Considering risk;
> If you are of interest to a nation state, you're pretty much stuffed
> anyway, and I think this discussion has been around implants made via
> Chinese government action.
> The management processor issue is a real problem because they're not
> well understood, on by default, cant be (or cant easily) be disabled,
> and has to be software maintained. However, given all the other issues
> like the never ending stream of security issues in software, i'm not
> sure it changes the overall risk profile significantly. Only time will
> tell.
>
> Sorry for further polluting your thread Dale :)
>


I agree.  If you are committing international crimes, terrorism for
example, they will snoop on you and it doesn't matter much what you do
or use.  If nothing else, they will put you on a super computer setup
that will crack whatever you are doing/using and get you that way.  As
we know, generally speaking, given enough computer power, almost
anything can be cracked.  It's a time thing mostly. 

While off topic sort of, it is still relevant.  This might fit better on
the encryption thread but I still find it interesting. It is technology
related too.  It seems we agree on one thing here, we can't trust much
of anything or anyone completely.  So, no need for the apology.  I still
learn from the posts even if I don't post a reply to some. 

Dale

:-)  :-) 

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