On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 10:29 AM, Peter Humphrey <pe...@prh.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
> On Tuesday 15 August 2017 22:12:41 Mick wrote:
>> On Tuesday 15 Aug 2017 16:02:19 Mike Gilbert wrote:
>> > On Tue, Aug 15, 2017 at 2:17 PM, Rich Freeman <ri...@gentoo.org> wrote:
>> > > On Tue, Aug 15, 2017 at 11:04 AM, Mick <michaelkintz...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>> > >> I can't recall if I did this myself in a moment of security induced
>> > >> inspiration.  I doubt I did.  So how did this happen?  What is
>> > >> responsible for mounting this fs?
>> > >
>> > > It looks like this never did turn into a news item:
>> > > https://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-dev/message/35304b0db4de9e06fea3222
>> > > 7537 9fa81
>> > >
>> > > You can remount it as rw if your tools don't do it automatically.  It
>> > > might not hurt to file a bug if one doesn't already exist for the tool
>> > > that isn't remounting it.
>> >
>> > Please bother efibootmgr upstream about it, or bother the OpenRC
>> > maintainer who decided to break things.
>>
>> Thank you Rich, I suspected it was an intentional change and from a
>> security perspective it is to be commended.  However, it could cause
>> uninformed users like myself some lost time, thinking something may have
>> gone wrong on our system.
>>
>> I submitted bug #627964:
>>
>> https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=627964
>>
>> I think a news item although useful, on its own is not sufficient.  If
>> remounting 'rw' and back again to 'ro' is not performed by the legit
>> commands which touch efivars (e.g. efibootmgr, GRUB, et al), the HandBook
>> should also be amended if it hasn't been already, because newbies will
>> have one more excuse to pack it in and go back to *buntu.
>
> That was an instructive conversation - thanks all. I had the same problem
> with systemd-boot while rebuild this box over the last few days. I don't
> know whether to raise a similar bug against systemd-boot now, after reading
> your bug report, Mick.

Given that systemd-boot is ripped out of systemd, and systemd always
mounts efivarfs as read/write, there is really no chance of them
altering bootctl to re-mount efivarfs on demand.

Reporting a bug against systemd-boot would probably be a waste of your
time since I will almost certainly close it as WONTFIX. ;-)

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