On 170218-13:01+0000, Neil Bothwick wrote:
> I'm in my 60th year too, but only for a few more hours. Tomorrow I hit
> 60 and will officially be a grumpy old fart. 
Everybody is already old, in the future. And dead, in the future. And is
in the other world, already, in the future... And we are all kids, in
the past. But... But what is time? Just Thought of the Supreme Being...

> As for being able to revert system changes, I find a combination of
> adding buildpkg to FEATURES and installing demerge helps a lot.
> Regular btrfs snapshots of / don't hurt either. 
>
Yeah, lots of people use btrfs. I don't because I like total
Air-Gap'ing, and whatever I bring from my online clone of the master
Air-Gapped, back into the master Air-Gapped (mail, packages, all kinds
of stuff) I try to very thoroughly scrutinize first.

Meino, is it two systems, same model hardware? But see below.

On 170218-14:14+0100, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:
> Hi Miroslav,
> 
> I started using computers with 14...
> 
> The root I am installing is in a separate directory, which
> I use chrooted.
> 
> Over the years I was locked out several times because I was using
> "sophisticated backup software" and the "the most advanced backup
> strategy"
> ;)
> ...in the end, when the system had gone gaga, I neither had the
> software anymore nor the informations, what backyp was incremental,
> fundamental, global, local or whatever.
> 
> Now I have two identical harddiscs: One is for daily usage and the second
> is an 1:1 image copy of the first one.
> Getting my system up again after -- for example -- a hard head creash
> is done in minutes: Change harddisk, reboot...Voila!
> 
Meino, is it two systems, same model hardware? Same MBO on both? Or not?
Or just the HDD are the same model.

That's cloning anyway if it's just HDDs.

I use that, but it's also same MBO on at least two systems (method is
good for even only one system, but it's probably too much work)...

But I use Air-Gap'ing before cloning... And I generally
can't get in trouble of not being able to revert...

See for yourself (warning: before figuring out, I wondered a lot, even
asked unclear question...):
Air-Gapped Gentoo Install, Tentative
https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-987268.html

Postfix smtp/TLS, Bkp/Cloning Mthd, Censorship/Intrusion
https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-999436.html#7613044
(that PART 2 is about the backup)

> While building the new root I have attached an external 2.5" harddisk
> for temporary backups and snapshot of what I am trying to acchieve.
Not completely understand the above...

But I think Air-Gap'ing is what anybody who cares about security/privacy
needs... Backup whithout Air-Gap'ing is not enough.

> Cheers
> Meino
> 
> 
> Miroslav Rovis <miro.ro...@croatiafidelis.hr> [17-02-18 14:04]:
> > On 170218-12:53+0100, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:
> > > Johannes Rosenberger <gen...@jorsn.eu> [17-02-18 12:44]:
> > > > On 18.02.2017 12:14, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:
> > ...
> > > 
> > > thanks for all your help!
> > > "I am over 30...please help me to gentoo..."
> > > ;)
> > > Cheers
> > > Meino

Regards!
-- 
Miroslav Rovis
Zagreb, Croatia
https://www.CroatiaFidelis.hr

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