"taii...@gmx.com" <taii...@gmx.com> writes:
> On 12/30/2016 11:43 AM, lee wrote:
>
>> "taii...@gmx.com" <taii...@gmx.com> writes:
>>
>>> On 12/30/2016 08:39 AM, lee wrote:
>>>
>>>> the...@sys-concept.com writes:
>>>>
>>>>> I'm putting a new system, it will be running mainly, VirtualBox,
>>> [...]
>>>> If you want a rock solid machine with lots of cores and RAM and very
>>>> capable of powering VMs, the HP Z800 is worthwhile to check out.
>>> [...]
>>> You can build a system with a (new) KGPE-D16, two used 6276 processors
>>> and used 64gb ecc ram for only around $500 which will net you a 32
>>> core computer that can run blob free no microcode coreboot that
>>> supports max 256GB RDIMM RAM.
>> Including an excellent 850W power supply, a good case, SAS RAID
>> controller and a graphics card?
>>
>> The 6276 is a more power hungry than a Xeon and runs at only 2.3GHz
>> (though I don't know how that compares to the Xeon). Power consumption
>> is an issue for me because electricity is way too expensive here.
>>
>> Asus doesn't seem to say anything about coreboot?
>>
>>> There is another coreboot compatible (theoretically, but not tested)
>>> QP max 1TB (jesus christ) RDIMM RAM G34 motherboard, so you could have
>>> 64 cores for only $20 or so per 16 cores. (plus the $30 for a cpu
>>> cooler)
>> It's good to have so many options to choose from :) Considering all
>> this, is there a good reason to go for an FX-8350?
>>
> Ahh good point, I was assuming he already had a case like I did. I
It's on the list ... When you add it up, you pay about the same for a
Z800 with 64GB, more when you account for your work of putting the parts
together.
> have a single 6274 plus graphics card with a *quality* 500watt PSU and
> it works fine at full load.
> 6 cores vs 16 cores and coreboot with zero blobs or microcode, IMO the
> power consumption is greatly worth it.
Well, the FX-8350 is probably not exactly a power-saving CPU, either, so
what would count is the difference.
> Asus didn't implement coreboot on the kgpe-d16 (asus sucks), it was
Yeah, I say that too ever since I had an Asus board with a fan on it
that started making noise after a short time, and it wasn't possible to
update the BIOS, either, because that required windoze. I won't buy
Asus anymore since then.
> done by the firmware heroes at raptor engineering.
>
> 6276 actually runs at 2.6ghz with turbo assuming you have proper
> cooling, and 8 cores can turbo to 3.2ghz if the other 8 are in CC6.
>
>
> If you care about linux you will care about free firmware, if we do
> not care one day microsoft will simply flip a switch and shut us out
> for good ("secure" boot 2.0 spec does not mandate the option to
> disable it)
The problem is getting a board with coreboot. I definitely don't want
an UEFI board, and so far I got away with not having any, but what
choice do you really have?
