On 21/12/2016 21:51, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 2:46 PM, Rich Freeman <ri...@gentoo.org> wrote: >> On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 2:20 PM, <meino.cra...@gmx.de> wrote: >> >>> The following USE changes are necessary to proceed: >>> (see "package.use" in the portage(5) man page for more details) >>> # required by kde-plasma/kwin-5.8.3::gentoo >>> # required by kde-plasma/plasma-workspace-5.8.3-r4::gentoo >>> # required by net-p2p/ktorrent-5.0.1::gentoo[shutdown] >>> # required by @selected >>> # required by @world (argument) >>>> =media-libs/mesa-12.0.1 wayland >> >> >> I suggest ignoring this for the moment and see if the info above >> resolves your systemd issues. I'm not sure why kwin has the >> dependency that it does, but it looks to me like it is set up as a >> hard dependency that you can't avoid without modifying the ebuild. >> I'll see if I can figure out more. The changes above should at least >> get rid of whatever is pulling in systemd. >> >> Installing wayland shouldn't actually hurt anything. I noticed that I >> have it installed likely for the same reason, and it isn't like it >> will start running on its own. But, I'm not sure yet whether you can >> avoid it. >> > > Well, I should have just waited to reply, but here is the issue: > https://mail.kde.org/pipermail/release-team/2015-July/008725.html > > kwin does in fact have a non-conditional dependency on wayland, so you > need to install it. It won't do anything if you don't run it, but it > is not possible to build kwin without wayland support. Judging by the > claim in the email that it used to take 100 conditionals in the source > to make it optional, I doubt anybody in Gentoo will be patching this > anytime soon. I guess you could always fork it if you wanted to. > > So, sorry, not what you wanted to hear, and not really what I care to > hear either since I don't use wayland, but at least it doesn't need to > be running in this case. I wouldn't be surprised if that changes in > the future, but everybody knows that xorg is on borrowed time right > now. > > Well, if nothing else at least this splits the thread so that you can > reply to the systemd and the wayland issues separately... >
Doesn't it strike you as curious that the 4 extra wayland packages consume 8.5M installed (sans size of sources in distfiles) and for 18 months no-one has raised nary a whimper about it, whereas recall the giant whinge-fest a while back about a few 10s of harmless unit files (text), each less than one fs block? For the record, openrc user here on Gentoo; systemd on Ubuntu at work (no feasible choice with Ubuntu) -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com
