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>>> okular is not a 'stinking pdf reader'. Nice try. But just like konqueror >>> it is just a wrapper around kparts and is able to deal with a lot more >>> files than just pdf and postscript. >>> >>> That is what 'modular' and 'code reuse' really means. >>> >>> And the opposite to what gnome does. 'oh, there is an app. Hijack it and >>> gnomify it and make it dependent on 2 douzend gnome libs that all do the >>> same but nobody ever cleaned up'. >> You're right about the code reuse if you're running KDE, but I'd rather >> not install *all* of Qt and a bunch of other crap just to view PDFs and >> such. I think that's all he's arguing. > > well, do you complain if you have to install *all* of gtk + gnome > objects+introspection+gconf? >> >> I love having KDE on my desktop (and okular is really nice), but on my >> laptop (i3wm) I spend the vast majority of my time in vim and on the >> terminal and shouldn't have to essentially install KDE to view a PDF >> when I need to check some LaTeX formatting. Just contrast with evince; I >> disabled nautilus integration, and my machine only has 5 gnome packages, >> 2 of which are icon sets. >> >> Alec >> >> . >> > > how much do you have to install if you deactivate all use flags for > okular? well, you still have all of qt... and kdelibs and phonon... but > you would loose a lot of the other stuff. vlc support in phonon is as > optional as tiff or chm in okular. > Alright, you got me there. I was a little over-dosed on coffee when I wrote that. I forgot about gtk since I already had a gtk app or two when I installed evince. > So on that box you wouldn't choose a KDE program. Simple. Yes, it was simple. Everything on gentoo is just soooo simple ;) I think this is the first discussion about desktop environments I've ever seen that hasn't degenerated into a complete flame war. I love this list. Alec -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJT2h5hAAoJEPllmEtQaNTUxeoH/0zgKbpTWJZ98jATM1XBbu8E ClkQgyddzvtKXlKfTrQwTzTU/rayA34EEdGDKiEgkvHhN2xHYbe//WlI9GPM1zfO RHi+Ag8/Nmocsqd5eMv+56ZdzvmVaq1teQKF2Z0WgLa0dAO/PdS+dBncN2kYvV2q wGliLCZeVD3hDVdiBZ2kq6R8+VuAzHDLS8CSH6bAXVsy9ItTMLLHeNErSI/ibA6W da3QWiSIpQ2cW18EK85OosHvWFUiU5WpO0Qw3/VpHDDQ3nQmWh5r1TXCLXFJIWB8 833DmjFk6sneiJy52n2KMwlVqGkmmC98IEviSCaY1U5F+W6QPLYkvnGks98cksQ= =zRTD -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----