2014-07-27 21:14 GMT+03:00 Kerin Millar <kerfra...@fastmail.co.uk>:
> On 27/07/2014 12:30, Grand Duet wrote:
>>
>> 2014-07-27 13:39 GMT+03:00 Walter Dnes <waltd...@waltdnes.org>:
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jul 27, 2014 at 12:21:23PM +0300, Grand Duet wrote
>>>>
>>>> This is a continuation of the thread:
>>>> "Something went wrong with DNS, plz help!"
>>>>
>>>> Now, the issue became clearer, so I decided to start
>>>> a new thread with more descriptive Subject.
>>>>
>>>> In short: the contents of the file /etc/resolv.conf
>>>> is unpredictably different from one reboot to another.
>>>> It is either
>>>> # Generated by net-scripts for interface lo
>>>> domain mynetwork
>>>> or
>>>> # Generated by net-scripts for interface "eth0"
>>>> nameserver My.First.DNS-Server.IP
>>>> nameserver My.Second.DNS-Server.IP
>>>> nameserver 8.8.8.8
>>>>
>>>> I tried to chmod this file to be unwrittable even for root
>>>> but after a reboot it have been overwritten anyway.
>>>>
>>> A similar problem was noted at...
>>> https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-816332-start-0.html
>>
>>
>> Like in the thread above, I also have a line
>> dns_domain_lo="mynetwork"
>> in my /etc/conf.d/net file. It says nothing to me
>> and I do not remember how it got there.
>>
>> But somewhere on Gentoo forum I have found the following
>> explanation: "If you only specify dns_domain_lo="foo" and
>> restart the lo interface it will put "domain foo" in /etc/resolv.conf
>> and remove everything else."
>
>
> You can specify dns_domain - without an interface suffix - which ought to
> prevent this behaviour. However, you'd be better off getting rid of it
> altogether.
It is my first reboot after commenting out the line
dns_domain_lo="mynetwork"
and so far it went good.
Moreover, the file /etc/resolv.conf has not been overwritten.
I still have to check if everything else works fine and
if I will get the same result on the next reboot
but I hope that the problem has been solved.
> All the option does is define the suffix(es) that are appended
> by the resolver under certain conditions. These conditions are as follows:
>
> a) the initial name isn't qualified (contains no dots) [1]
> b) the initial name could not be resolved (NXDOMAIN response)
>
> Making up fake domains for this setting, as many Gentoo users are induced
> into doing, serves no purpose. Let's assume that I have "fakedomain" as a
> search domain in resolv.conf.
>
> Let's see what happens for a short name:
>
> $ host -t A -v shorthost | grep -e Trying -e NX
> Trying "shorthost.fakedomain"
> Trying "shorthost"
> Host shorthost not found: 3(NXDOMAIN)
>
> Result: two spurious DNS lookups, each resulting in NXDOMAIN. You may use
> tcpdump to confirm that there are indeed two.
>
> Now, let's try looking up a fully qualified hostname that happens not to
> exist:
>
> $ host -t A -v nonexistent.google.com | grep -e Trying -e NX
> Trying "nonexistent.google.com"
> Trying "nonexistent.google.com.fakedomain"
> Host nonexistent.google.com not found: 3(NXDOMAIN)
>
> Result: The first lookup fails and is immediately followed by an another
> lookup that is completely and utterly useless. Had a search domain _not_
> been defined, then the resolver could have concluded its efforts after the
> first NXDOMAIN response.
>
> The bottom line is that it only makes sense to define search domain(s) if
> the following two conditions hold true.
>
> 1) You want to be able to resolve hostnames in their short form
> 2) Records for said names will exist in a known, *valid* domain
>
> Otherwise, don't bother and leave it to the DHCP server to decide [2]. While
> I haven't looked at the handbook lately, it has had a history of prescribing
> dns/domain related options without adequate explanation and, in some cases,
> with outright misleading information [3].
>
> On a related note, some people prefer to manage resolv.conf themselves and
> it is not initially obvious as to how to do this while also using DHCP.
> Trying to make the file immutable is not a proper approach. The trick is as
> follows:
>
> * Specify dhcpd_eth0="nodns" (do this for any dhcp-using interfaces)
> * Do not specify any dns or nameserver related settings in conf.d/net
>
> The netifrc scripts will then leave resolv.conf alone.
Thank you for the nice explanation that convinced me that I do
not need that feature at all.
I do not use DHCP at all but I got the general point.
> [1] Check out the ndots option in the resolv.conf(5) manpage
> [2] DHCP servers may specify a search domain for clients with option 15
> [3] https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=341349
