On 04/03/2014 20:20, Guido Budack wrote: > Hi, > > actually I am reading the handbook because I intend to change from > debian to gentoo. > I am some sort of a 'purist'.. however... > I just ask myself while reading chapter 3 very carefully: > > isn't it necessary to modify any fstab after you installed partitions > and file-systems resp. > mouting the same? > Since now I can't see anything comparable in the handbook.
It's in later chapters > Secondly I intend to install from scratch- that means no network. Um, errr, no :-) If you do a sane install, you will have the network connectivity you set up. What do you mean by "install from scratch"? Surely you aren't contemplating doing a stage 1? Yikes, I haven't done one of those in *years*. Stage 1 is only useful for building the stage 3 that you should be using, for live-cd creators and the masochists amongst us. True masochists though do a LinuxFromScratch install. It's a good learning experience, but just that - do it once, see how it's done and forevermore thereafter do it the easy way (stage 3). > Will I get a root-prompt after the fist steps of installation? No, you get a login prompt where you log in as root > The controverse discussions in the web are not really satisfying... It's not 100% apparent how the install works from reading the handbook, you have to do it to see how it works. Do note that all distro installer work in this general way, Gentoo just lets you see more of the process. In summary: You need a running OS to install an OS. You get this anywhere you choose but the easiest is to boot from a removeable media (CD, USB, etc). In this environment you will partition your disks, mkfs the volumes, mount them under /mnt and do other things to set up the system. Then you unpack a stage3 and the portage tree onto these partitions and chroot there. You have to unpack the tarballs then chroot otherwise you will try chroot into an empty directory structure - ain't gonna work. A stage 3 gives you a basic working environment with a toolchain and some useful software. And you can configure and build a kernel in it. That is the bulk of this part, so after some various bits of housekeeping and setting up grub, you reboot. With luck, the thing you just installed will boot and give you a prompt. at this point your only user with a shell is root, so you start doing basic sysadmin actions like defining users, setting all your default config options, updating the entire system to latest versions (the stages usually lag behind) and installing every other package you want. You also set up networking as hopefully you built the proper network drivers when you built the kernel earlier. If not, no big deal, just make menuconfg and build the kernel again. The stages already contain all the software you need to get wired and wireless going, so as long as you have the proper drivers built and loaded you can enable the network. It's not especially pretty but it works like a bomb and you can make it pretty later if you wish. Every distro installer out there follows these same basic principles (order varies widely), Gentoo just lets you see what's really going on. Follow the handbook, you'll do fine. Ignore dumb interwebz posts saying how hard it is, those *always* come from people a) without patience or b) who can't read and didn't do what the fine handbook saysto do. Thousands of folk have done these installs, by far the majority succeed first try. Statistically, you are unlikely to be that one in a thousand who fails :-) > > > Greets > > Gee > > -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) > mQENBFMSzBEBCADLPBwdQ2vDYBNvoH50Z0eUjRHUVhzKzpgRT2rlgJ+inrwsP8w1 > m6WzCgLFq7iljVp3FxEgTEV/K3Kh6I9Sk13tPx4bkhZ006R+We152eS+q7yiGwhJ > vwTecl1oAQ7ce+PGGng8TRw3evBO2kRs/qc5CuV7OfsBxwPU+OSjOaaBFp4O0F4b > CrWczQZEjShOvWePHXnLxqnY3y1o2JpjE+fnikXsbm9owTuMLyLy/b9ZfGBaRVa7 > gyy2N1GPKti68esU5gMfnoCVCKqF6C+0wc+dJV0dPzW1Ps2t1uffZ8OjG/3QZRq/ > oq0bO6+J30bCgYIh6XtgXxtcRb77Bjhw7VpxABEBAAG0H0d1aWRvIEJ1ZGFjayA8 > Z2xhaXZ5QGdtYWlsLmNvbT6JATgEEwECACIFAlMSzBECGw8GCwkIBwMCBhUIAgkK > CwQWAgMBAh4BAheAAAoJEIxjGe3OdnLOM7UH/i46VPSPIufgPuKq8bb9YlbhoE1H > ThaBREJyUeCRYrq1crdaO0Sr5FHoN7VTmC7XQm2W+zPOKTttx5dDD3ywshzphHlC > SJlN/s7lePf230zR3DePa7UYwvO1cW2lclZ7VDnkmb8317SPOECDJcn0l8A6eScT > FoYhzkeVwlroQFz7W9R56Z8HbNXBPqIOS93WVyCGNiTqFI9tvs44jiOIv4rIINrI > V7RG8gXDOjhfwDOhpSVReV8Xf7Eki/s2/wQV8z3XfOpPsbu2hrYeu1esRg1bCjRP > KFBpqQIlByg1ulBR6nZtM8qWPD7p5wYxloc/wLG4NjhXEuOWNERGPQa0DKg= > =r1R3 > -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- > -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com
