On Sun, Sep 29, 2013 at 12:24 PM, Tanstaafl <tansta...@libertytrek.org> wrote: > On 2013-09-29 10:57 AM, Bruce Hill <da...@happypenguincomputers.com> wrote: >> >> On Sun, Sep 29, 2013 at 10:20:49AM -0400, Tanstaafl wrote: >>> >>> On 2013-09-28 8:30 AM, Bruce Hill <da...@happypenguincomputers.com> >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> This does not mean that on November 1 your system will not be able to >>>> boot. >>>> Its simply means that beginning November 1, Gentoo devs are not required >>>> to >>>> jump through hoops to make apps work on systems with /usr separate from >>>> /. >>>> >>>> Now, what are you going to do? That's the question. >>> >>> >>> This won't necessarily be the end of the worl, if, and ONLY if any and >>> all ebuild mainteainers are REQUIRED to provide very large and scary >>> warnings if they change something that will cause any systems with a >>> separate /usr and NO initramfs to fail to boot. >> >> >> The news item *IS* the warning. > > > Oh for fucks sake... BULLSHIT. > > If an ebuild maintainer changes something that will BREAK BOOTING on systems > that violate the 'no separate /usr without an initramfs' rule, what in the > FUCK is the problem with requiring them to WARN PEOPLE?
The news item allows developers to assume that /usr is available from early boot. Therefore, they *could* be breaking *some* setups, and they will not even realize it. That is the beauty of having /usr available from early boot: it frees developers from thinking in all kind of different setups and combinations (it is on LVM? it uses raid? what level? it's on NFS? do I need a special filesystem?), so they can work in bringing more awesomeness into Gentoo. They cannot put a warning if they don't know something will break *some* setups. And the whole point of this is that they don't have to consider every single possible combination of setups; the point is not to force you to have an initramfs. The point is to guarantee early /usr availability. Regards. -- Canek Peláez Valdés Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México
