On Monday 26 August 2013 01:49:17 Yohan Pereira wrote:
> On 25/08/13 at 09:50pm, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> > I'd recommend cross-building just a kernel and modules locally and
> > copying that to the vm, it will only be about 6 to 8M
> > 
> > 
> > Some food for thought:
> > 
> > I do question the wisdom though of running Gentoo on a VM like that.
> > I've always found that Gentoo (despite all it's fantastic awesomeness
> > elsewhere) is really not fitted for that specific task very well - it
> > tends to be a lot of pain and not much gain.
> > 
> > Why do you want Gentoo on the vm? Is there a very good reason, or is 
it
> > because you are familiar with it?
> > 
> > If the second reason, you might want to have a look at FreeBSD or one 
of
> > the binary distros based of Gentoo like Sabayon. You might find the 
best
> > of both worlds in that space.
> 
> Well I have a couple VM's running on 256 mb of RAM. While I'll admit I
> initially chose gentoo because of familiarity. It seemed to work out fine
> although I'll admit I've I haven't updated the kernel, just using the
> kernel provided by the host. AFAIR the heaviest(memory wise) thing I did
> on such a VM was running a java stock trading application in a virtual
> screen that was accessed via VNC.
> 
> I've never had problems(yet) compiling gcc etc. I remeber being able to
> compile faster than my laptop's aging core 2 due processor.
> 
> Currently I use one for my personal a mail server, quassel (irc client),
> tt-rss, git/mecurial collaboration, development web hosting and other
> random stuff. It hasn't borked on me yet but YMMV. Heres the output of 
free
> from the VM.
> 
> $ free -m
>              total       used       free     shared    buffers
>            cached
>            Mem:           246        231         15          0
>            14        157
>            -/+ buffers/cache:         59        187
>            Swap:          494         57        437

Well, familiarity was my main reason but actually i though gentoo fits 
anyway quite good on such weak systems? (well besides compiling on it) 
You get a small system which needs not much space and performs quite 
good. (thats why 5GB is actually enough for me - i don't store anything 
there). 
FreeBSD might be a good alternative and in case gentoo is to much pain i'll 
give it a try. :)

BTW, i have an alix device at home which also has just 256MB Ram and 
while the CF-Card (where the gentoo system is stored) has 8GB now, i've 
started with an 4GB CF-Card and i did compile on this device - even 
(hardened)kernels :)
That was ~3 years ago, now i cross-compile for this device. However, 
gentoo on such devices runs perfectly well and rock stable. :)

mmike

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